Saboteur charges benefit from penetrating shots?

[Captain oh captain]

As the title says, do Saboteur charges(physical damage charges) benefit from penetrating shots?

[Enaki]

It's my understanding that DoTs ignore armor. If that's true then only Blast and Shrapnel would benefit. Not exactly the two highest used charges.

[Zyzyx]

It's my understanding that DoTs ignore armor. If that's true then only Blast and Shrapnel would benefit. Not exactly the two highest used charges.

It's not dots it is bleeds.

You still want a ranger or piercing bard in the raid for warrior dps and the abilities in sab that are not bleeds.

[McWaffles]

You'll get benefit to time bomb, frag bomb, detonate, blast charge, shrapnel charge, and auto attacks. Note that towards the bombs it won't affect high explosives, just the actual bomb hit.

[Enaki]

It's not dots it is bleeds.

You still want a ranger or piercing bard in the raid for warrior dps and the abilities in sab that are not bleeds.

What exactly is the difference between a bleed and a DoT?

[Zyzyx]

What exactly is the difference between a bleed and a DoT?

A bleed is physical damage and ignores armor. A DoT is a more general term and can be either magic based or a bleed.

[Enaki]

Ah, subcategory.

[Enaki]

I guess that begs the question, what dots are there that do not ignore armor and are physical?

I'm assuming you're talking about bolt on dots like Residual Shrapnel, i.e. things that are not native to the ability.

[Captain oh captain]

You'll get benefit to time bomb, frag bomb, detonate, blast charge, shrapnel charge, and auto attacks. Note that towards the bombs it won't affect high explosives, just the actual bomb hit.

Solid, thanks for clarifying.

[McWaffles]

What exactly is the difference between a bleed and a DoT?

DoT = generic damage over time. All bleeds are DoTs, not all DoTs are bleeds. For bleeds think of puncture, impale, high explosives, spike/shrapnel charges, etc. For generic DoT's think pyrolock (combust, dark touck, SV, etc.). Bleeds ARE physical damage and are hence enhanced by abilities that increase physical damage, but also ignore armor so any type of ArmPen is pointless for bleed based specs.

[Bloodbourne]

You'll get benefit to time bomb, frag bomb, detonate, blast charge, shrapnel charge, and auto attacks. Note that towards the bombs it won't affect high explosives, just the actual bomb hit.

Not Time Bomb... Earth Dmg.