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    Default So am I stupid/bad at math, or...

    The Avenger's Longsword isn't an AP gain over the Pathfinder's Shiv?

    Let me break down the stats, and then I'll give you screenies.

    Avenger's Longsword

    37 Str
    26 Dex
    39 End
    21 AP
    38 Hit
    41 Valor
    15 Veng

    Pathfinder's Shiv

    40 Dex
    26 Str
    36 End
    31 Crit
    38 Hit
    41 Valor
    15 Veng

    So.. There's a 1.5 loss in AP from the downgrade in dex/str total, and there's a 21 AP gain from the Avenger's Longsword... Right? Doesn't look like it.

    This is with the shiv: http://i.imgur.com/7M82h.png
    This is without the shiv: http://i.imgur.com/XDapU.png

    A few side notes: The runes I have on my shivs are +19 crit runes, and the sword is unruned, so that can't be the issue.
    Another thing that's a little mind boggling is I should also be gaining a bunch of AP from having the sword equipped, because I've filled out the fire PA.

    So unless I'm blind, stupid, or bad at math, it seems like the sword is completely borked.
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    Yeah, that looks bugged.

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    Did you have the lightning glyph applied to the shiv and not the sword?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazen View Post
    Did you have the lightning glyph applied to the shiv and not the sword?
    No, I only use whetstones.
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    What's your spec?

    Reset to 0/0/0 if you haven't already.

    Preferably get on the PTS and reset PA + soul.
    Last edited by Valnak; 07-06-2012 at 01:44 PM.

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    There's something happenin' here....and what it is aint exactly clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Work View Post
    There's something happenin' here....and what it is aint exactly clear.
    I'm guessing some or all of the R50 Rogue weapons aren't gaining PA benefits.

    Only this thread and the rifle thread to suggest that, but it's a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Freud View Post
    I'm guessing some or all of the R50 Rogue weapons aren't gaining PA benefits.

    Only this thread and the rifle thread to suggest that, but it's a possibility.
    For What It's Worth, I was just having fun with an old Buffalo Springfield song.

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    Last edited by Work; 07-06-2012 at 01:56 PM.

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    I was right, I'm just stupid. I went to go test on the PTS like Val suggested.

    On live, I have more points invested in dagger PAs than I do in sword PAs, and I didn't realize that if you had two daggers, the AP gain from PA is increased twice--I thought you needed two different types of weapons, because they would overwrite each other.

    Also, as far as I can tell on the PTS, AP is increasing with PVP weapons completely as intended, so unless the issue Defiant-specific, then the other thread about borked itemization is fine.


    So, yeah, I derped.
    Last edited by Zaros; 07-06-2012 at 05:20 PM.
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    hmm ok so i have more in axe PA then i do in daggers atm, i start with 2 daggers equiped, 1 that is random GSB dagger and 1 that is R50 dagger, i swap the GSB dagger for a R50 axe and i lose 10 AP, even though the axe is a 1str 2 dex and 30 dex from glyph increase....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadique View Post
    hmm ok so i have more in axe PA then i do in daggers atm, i start with 2 daggers equiped, 1 that is random GSB dagger and 1 that is R50 dagger, i swap the GSB dagger for a R50 axe and i lose 10 AP, even though the axe is a 1str 2 dex and 30 dex from glyph increase....
    nvm im just being stupid and should not be looking at stats when ive been up until 7am. was looking at my air PA as being axe/dagger instead of my death tree

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