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    Default [PvP] Sab. Question's.

    I have not been able to find much on Sab in PvP.

    General Spec i have found is http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j.../BkGllllli/Ah0 With some slight variations in RS/MM, Depending on what you're looking for. higher AP or slightly more running speed.

    But im wondering.. Would the Nightblade combo generation talent's increase charge dmg.
    Spec : http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j.../BkGllllli/Ah0

    So, If ya look at the Pro's n Con's
    51Sab/10MM/5RS You get 15% AP (RS) +25% AP (MM) + HP Buff
    51Sab/10MM/5NB You get 15% Combo + 25% AP (MM) + Stealth for 30 Sec's

    Not sure how much AP is contributed to charges.

    So, would 15% Combo be higher dmg vs 15% AP for Charges. & Would the 15% Combo out weigh the AP loss on Bombs.. It's kinda toss up so im not sure. I am unable to properly test this, I recently rerolled my R40 rogue becasue i wanted to be a Dwarf... And my new rouge is currently only R17.

    Any insight would be helpful. or if someone would like to test it out and report me the finding's that would be great too.

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    I personally run 51 Sab/11 MM (with points in ST damage, AP increase on crit, and one in the runspeed buff for kiting)/4 RS for AP. It gives more damage than the NB for some reason. The 12% flat AP increase from RS scales better with sab charges. The 11th point in MM is crucial; it's saved me many times against warriors who don't run Planar Blade. On the PTS event I was kiting 51 champs in 51 Sab. And Shadow Shift is a huge lifesaver too. Run in, blow someone up, then port out.


    In conclusion, 11 MM/4 RS gets the most damage AND utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucchini View Post
    I have not been able to find much on Sab in PvP.

    General Spec i have found is http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j.../BkGllllli/Ah0 With some slight variations in RS/MM, Depending on what you're looking for. higher AP or slightly more running speed.

    But im wondering.. Would the Nightblade combo generation talent's increase charge dmg.
    Spec : http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.j.../BkGllllli/Ah0

    So, If ya look at the Pro's n Con's
    51Sab/10MM/5RS You get 15% AP (RS) +25% AP (MM) + HP Buff
    51Sab/10MM/5NB You get 15% Combo + 25% AP (MM) + Stealth for 30 Sec's

    Not sure how much AP is contributed to charges.

    So, would 15% Combo be higher dmg vs 15% AP for Charges. & Would the 15% Combo out weigh the AP loss on Bombs.. It's kinda toss up so im not sure. I am unable to properly test this, I recently rerolled my R40 rogue becasue i wanted to be a Dwarf... And my new rouge is currently only R17.

    Any insight would be helpful. or if someone would like to test it out and report me the finding's that would be great too.
    Hart has it. Pretty much the only viable sabo spec I've seen is the one he mentioned. I played around with one that had some ranger in it for a bit... and some various other setups... but nothing has the damage of that one, nor slight survivability. You are not going to survive long with any sabo build, so you may as well go out with a bang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laban of C O View Post
    Hart has it. Pretty much the only viable sabo spec I've seen is the one he mentioned. I played around with one that had some ranger in it for a bit... and some various other setups... but nothing has the damage of that one, nor slight survivability. You are not going to survive long with any sabo build, so you may as well go out with a bang.
    I tried a 51 Sab 8 Ranger 7 Sin build. I had 50% crit chance on the PTS. It just didn't have the flat damage of the other specs.
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    Thanks. Also with 51Sab/11MM/4RS is the Charge + 50% Weapon Dmg based off Ranged or Melee weapons? I would assume Ranged.. Seince Sab is Ranged Combat.. But i could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucchini View Post
    Thanks. Also with 51Sab/11MM/4RS is the Charge + 50% Weapon Dmg based off Ranged or Melee weapons? I would assume Ranged.. Seince Sab is Ranged Combat.. But i could be wrong.
    It's ranged because you have a ranged soul. Sab goes off of whatever subsoul you have. 11 in MM makes it based off of ranged (which nets you more DPS).
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