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    is rogue crit cap 1198 crit rating or 45% crit. Do i need to hit 45% base crit? or lets say i have the 5 points into eagle eye for the extra 5% do i only need 40%+5% from eagle eye or still 45%+5% from eagle eye to make it 50%? next question is 45% the cap or are we just getting to 45% because we expect to have a support to give us that extra 5% to make it 50% in raids or groups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorBurn View Post
    is rogue crit cap 1198 crit rating or 45% crit. Do i need to hit 45% base crit? or lets say i have the 5 points into eagle eye for the extra 5% do i only need 40%+5% from eagle eye or still 45%+5% from eagle eye to make it 50%? next question is 45% the cap or are we just getting to 45% because we expect to have a support to give us that extra 5% to make it 50% in raids or groups?

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    1186 fully raid buffed is the crit cap. This equates to ROUGHLY 1020 unbuffed rating, due to the raid buffs you should be getting.

    1186 = 45% crit. I believe 45% ITSELF is the crit soft cap. After this, the amount of rating you need for 1% crit increases dramatically, to something ridiculous like 200 rating for 1% crit. It's just not worth it.

    The crit hard cap is 60%. Beyond 60%, you will not receive ANY benefit from crit rating.

    x% critical chance abilities/talents will still give you the full benefit past 45%. I'm not sure about past 60% however, as I've never bothered to test it.

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    thank you for the reply. you just helped me in so many ways. everytime i would ask in game it was either a trolled up awsner or a bunch of iunnos or nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mav986 View Post
    x% critical chance abilities/talents will still give you the full benefit past 45%. I'm not sure about past 60% however, as I've never bothered to test it.
    Seeing how Bloodstalkers consistently get 80% actual critrates on skills, I'd conclude that your talents and procs do get you past 60% easily. To 100% needs to be tested, but impossible currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rounded View Post
    Seeing how Bloodstalkers consistently get 80% actual critrates on skills, I'd conclude that your talents and procs do get you past 60% easily. To 100% needs to be tested, but impossible currently.
    Actually this isn't true. With bladedancer you get Blade and Soul Parity which increases your crit chance by 50% which brings it past 100%. It's one of the reasons bladedancer doesn't scale as well as you'd think in raids.
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    Pretty sure this stuff's in one of the many stickies around.

    45% is the soft cap, 60% is the hard cap for crit rating based on stats as in dex and +phys crit rating.

    Anything that grants you +% crit is not included in the cap

    So a raid geared BS with ~47% crit in stats with buffs, +5% from sin talents, +5% from bard motif, +5% from lethal, +15% from ruthless stalker, +5% from archon nets you approximately 80% crit rate.

    With the same set of raid buffs, if you manage to hit crit hard cap (which is in the neighborhood of 3000+ crit rating and impossible at the moment), you'd have 95% crit rate from current BS builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayi View Post
    Actually this isn't true. With bladedancer you get Blade and Soul Parity which increases your crit chance by 50% which brings it past 100%. It's one of the reasons bladedancer doesn't scale as well as you'd think in raids.
    Oo, true, missed that one as I haven't touched BD in a long while.
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