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    Default False Blade... Why?

    Why is this getting changed? Does anyone know? Who suggested this?

    I would love a Dev response here, but im sure this wont get one.

    What could possibly be the intent of this change? Rogues have plenty of self healing, and tanking is already boring as hell because they consolidated all of our finishers into Guarded Steel. As is you can just port in, put up GS and AFK if you want to. Was this skill game breaking in some manner? Overpowered?

    I just am literally at a loss as to why this would get changed, and changed to something utterly worthless. I will never use FB again, it will be more useless Dauntless Strike. I can't imagine a single time, ever, where a minuscule heal would have been worth wasting 5 CP's.

    Can anybody explain this change to me?
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    I used it for tanking and that was it.
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    Go look at Justi. Avoidance is getting an across-the-board nerfbat, which is fine by me because avoidance tanking is dumb. They seem to be normalising RS and Justicar toward the high-end Warrior tank builds in terms of mitigation and avoidance. I do agree on the point that having one fewer finishers is annoying. RS has been dumbed down so much it's just getting ridiculous. Part of the attraction was that it wasn't a two-button exercise in easy mode.

    Anyway the heal component is obviously meant to improve solo play / leveling since FB is such a low-level skill, Leeching doesn't become available until level 20, and lolbard.

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    They are moving away from avoidance tanking, to mitigation based tanking.

    Only logical reasoning to explain the change to False Blade.

    Why the change to Self Healing instead of any other number of possibilities is definitely interesting to find out.
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    People have been asking for rift scavenger to be changed to what false blade is on the pts for ages now

    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    People have been asking for rift scavenger to be changed to what false blade is on the pts for ages now
    What people? i want to strangle those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    People have been asking for rift scavenger to be changed to what false blade is on the pts for ages now
    I can't remember anyone asking for a rift scavenger nerf. If rift scavenger was made into a passive healing ability that would proc from using any finisher then that might work but I definitely don't want to see it as a weak self heal finisher that does no damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puandro View Post
    What people? i want to strangle those people.
    Not before we tar and feather them plz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    People have been asking for rift scavenger to be changed to what false blade is on the pts for ages now
    No, they haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durango View Post
    No, they haven't.
    Yes, they have.

    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...scavenger.html

    Only the most recent example. There are more. You can find them if you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    Yes, they have.

    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...scavenger.html

    Only the most recent example. There are more. You can find them if you want.
    Your example is an example of someone proposing something stupid, but it isn't proposing to make RS into what the current PTS FB is. Both what was suggested in that thread and the change to make FB a no damage bad heal are bad ideas and bad changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    People have been asking for rift scavenger to be changed to what false blade is on the pts for ages now
    Zyzyx, you are supposed to troll other calling's forums... not ours, wtf

    Also terrible idea, don't ever mention it again please
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    On a somewhat bright side, A Rogue PvP tank and a Warrior PvP tank can now start a fight with each other that doesn't end for a REALLY REALLY long time now =D.

    Scratch that not so bright.
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    If the new False Blade is to be useful it should AT LEAST still do some damage...
    But a Rogue tank in my eyes SHOULD be more of a avoidance tank over a mitigation tank... but thats just me...

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    Also any1 else realize how many times you can "miss" False Blades?
    How can you miss when you are applying it to yourself o.O
    Last edited by Am0n; 02-20-2012 at 05:29 AM.
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