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    Default 32sin/24bd/10mm

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...ko.0VRcxsfV00M

    me and a few guildies spent quite a few days working on this and trying to get as much out of it as we can and i think we have reached maximum potential. from my personal parsing i am getting the same dps with this as i am with bloodstalker. it's a very strong build and it's much easier that the bloodstalker cus the only combat buffs you have to keep up is impale and blade tempo (use whenever you think it'll bring the most dps increase)

    you will be using the bladedancer crystal for the 30% dps increase

    the macro's are pretty self explanatory but for all you noobs out there here they go:

    main builder:
    #show Puncture
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Puncture
    cast Backstab
    cast Precision Strike
    cast Quick Strike
    cast Keen Strike
    cast Swift Shot

    ^swift shot is simply a gap closer^

    Impale macro:
    #show Impale
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Expose Weakness
    cast Impale

    ^the reason for this is because you will be using the bladedancer crystal and not the assassin crystal^

    stealth macro:
    #show Jagged Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Poison Malice
    cast Jagged Strike


    the rotation is pretty simple:

    stealth>stealth macro for opener>x3spam macro>impale macro>x5spam macro>Deadly Strike

    aoe rotation:
    Twin Strike>Compound Attack (Fan Out if you want)

    buffs:

    Virulent Poison, Leathal Poison, Baneful Touch, and Combat Preparation (if you arent in raid)

    situational stuff:
    -interrupt-Weapon Barrage
    -if for some reason your tank sucks and you pull aggro you have 'Side Steps' (maybe you wont die)
    -and Flash of Steel so you dont get out of melee range (you can macro this to your main spam if you want i didnt so i can save it for when i really need it)

    thats pretty much it. if i left something out let me know or if you see anything that might work better bring it up. always open for constructive criticism


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreachur View Post
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...ko.0VRcxsfV00M

    main builder:
    #show Puncture
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Puncture
    cast Backstab
    cast Precision Strike
    cast Quick Strike
    cast Keen Strike
    cast Swift Shot
    KS, PS, and QS macro'd together .... this is already suspect

    also using EW only on Impale fade cuts down the number of EW you do ... it should be applyed manually or in the builder.

    also I find it tough to think that Impale is doing enough DPS to counteract 2x QS/PS on DD buff

    also your link seems broken
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    http://www.riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_...7003b949e5c727

    Something like that? I'll have to give it a try I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernini View Post
    http://www.riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_...7003b949e5c727

    Something like that? I'll have to give it a try I guess.
    another note, unless you have 40 points in BD using the BD crystal will be completely unviable for any sort of end game content.
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    When dummy parsing, unless you are comparing builds using both fervor and a tablet, BD/MM specs will always have inflated numbers due to energy regeneration.

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    I'm pretty sure despite whatever it can do on the dummy, it'll parse lower in a raid. Less uptime on the boss because you're missing the blinks. That's one of the big problems with BD, so it should effect this build the same.

    Assassin crystal is also way better then the BD crystal... maybe some other variant using the assassin crystal with BD will yeild more dps?
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    ^^ http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...odstalker.html

    I've been using this for blink-unfriendly fights (mostly just grug) as I'm not at 4/4 HK and thus won't use BD or NB, though I personally haven't gotten very good parses from the build. It does a great job of showing just how ridiculously energy starved bloodstalker is though given that 3GCD FBs can get you starved even with 3/3 combat efficiency.

    People in the thread have reported higher dps using ks/qs/ps, and I saw the same on the dummy even just macroing them together (yes, noob, I know), but I'm not sure how it would translate into a raid-buffed setting. And yes, it suffers quite a bit on fights with much boss movement; it's like the Hoko spec, just have to spam crappy unbuffed MM builders/finishers until flash of steel.

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    Hum, I wonder if MM is really the way to go, has anyone tried NB instead?

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...M.Vi0chc.V0x0h

    Oh, and since Sin-RS is so energy starved, I see 0 issue with macroing precision, quick and keen together. You're going to have delayed attacks because of energy, sure there'll be macro lag but you aren't going to attack every second anyways.

    Then use puncture, backstab, precision, quick and keen.

    If macro lag is an issue, make 2 macros. One with all the attacks and another keen strike, then alternate between the two buttons to build combo points.
    Last edited by Mayi; 02-06-2012 at 10:02 AM.
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    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...ko.0VRcxsfV00M

    sorry here is the fixed link not sure how that happened and i know that putting EW in a macro is not as efficient and thats not how i play it i have it on a separate key to apply when its the most beneficial but i made this as a fool proof and easy rotation as possible guide. and from our testings you get the most damage out of impala as long as you keep it up 24/7


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    also the attack power bonus from marksman seems to be the most successful. plus it gives you that gap filler if you are having a problem staying in melee or your tank has to do a fast kite


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayi View Post
    I'm pretty sure despite whatever it can do on the dummy, it'll parse lower in a raid. Less uptime on the boss because you're missing the blinks. That's one of the big problems with BD, so it should effect this build the same.

    Assassin crystal is also way better then the BD crystal... maybe some other variant using the assassin crystal with BD will yeild more dps?
    you could be right about the sin crystal being better i unfortunately havent been able to see them compared side by side. it would definitely be something to look at but it seems as if the 20% more attack power over all and not just the assassin dps increase would be better since you dont use many attacks from assassin


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