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    Default Can we get a good melee spec that doesn't involve RS?

    Would like to do some good DPS without having to keep up a 10second buff on top of an external combo point rotation.
    If our top DPS is going to have this complex rotation, and have to watch multiple buffs that last for very limited times, could we make this somehow related to the complexity of other classes's top DPS's?

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    51 BD ...whatever combo you want for the other part. 10 mm 5 rs/ 15 sin/10 sin 5 rs

    49 NB 17 sin

    Both are viable specs. I run 49 nb 17 sin in HK on any fight that I'm not strict single target.

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    49 NB still has to keep up a 10sec debuff... not as bad, but also not as high DPS from what I've heard. I'll try it out, thnx.

    Still dumb that we have to deal w/ 10sec long debuffs/buff if we want to be melee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falsedemise View Post
    49 NB still has to keep up a 10sec debuff... not as bad, but also not as high DPS from what I've heard. I'll try it out, thnx.

    Still dumb that we have to deal w/ 10sec long debuffs/buff if we want to be melee.
    With the change to D2D it's practically a 2 button spec( 5 if you count Ebon fury macro, AoE, and a fiery spike button). Lingering flame keeps refreshing your spikes on your non SoD finishers so you don't really have to worry about managing it. Depending on your latency / raid energy management you may need to do a 4 cp Fiery Strike after SoD once every 30 seconds ,but other than that it's just builder/finisher.

    Sure it does a couple hundred dps less than assasin/rs ,but that's the price you pay for using a lazier spec.
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    I would love to see a deep assassin build that makes use of all it's ability, reminds be of playing my combat rogue back in the day.

    Wtb gift talents in all the trees already, so they can stop with this jerking around.
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    51sin/10mm/5rs is viable on pure ST fights, of course less than bloodstalker, but i don't have to pay much attention.
    Just 5CP Impale and 3CP Final Blows. that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffande View Post
    51sin/10mm/5rs is viable on pure ST fights, of course less than bloodstalker, but i don't have to pay much attention.
    Just 5CP Impale and 3CP Final Blows. that's it.
    Who wants to do inferior dps... lawl. I don't mind RS but I enjoy the play style of deep assassin more.
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    I've been working on a BD/Sin build that doesn't suffer from energy starvation, doesn't need to be behind, and is a fairly competitive build for fights where Bloodstaker isn't an option.

    I'll post a write up on it when I'm back in the states (In Germany for work) and can test it in a less laggy environment.

    It has some potential though.
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    Initial testing with the 32Sin/32Rng/2RS has shown promise. Also I am sure Hoko would approve.

    No blinks, Sin Crystal, Rng buffs act similar to RS buffs while being easier to use. Build comes down to normal Sin EW rotations and when you move make sure your pet goes with you.

    However, pet builds are what they are...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falsedemise View Post
    Would like to do some good DPS without having to keep up a 10second buff on top of an external combo point rotation.
    If our top DPS is going to have this complex rotation, and have to watch multiple buffs that last for very limited times, could we make this somehow related to the complexity of other classes's top DPS's?
    Bloodstalker isn't complicated, just practice it and you'll get the rhythm.

    You want 51 BD. Go gear up and you got what you want :P

    Unless you want our class to be so mindless and boring that our top dps specs make bard look fun o_O
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShazzamCrucia View Post
    Bloodstalker isn't complicated, just practice it and you'll get the rhythm.

    You want 51 BD. Go gear up and you got what you want :P

    Unless you want our class to be so mindless and boring that our top dps specs make bard look fun o_O
    Too late. Bard is already more fun than rogue DPS imo.

    It's why I tank instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McWaffles View Post
    Too late. Bard is already more fun than rogue DPS imo.

    It's why I tank instead.
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