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    Default Anyone else getting subpar results with 51 bd 10 as 5 rs?

    49 nb 17 as parses 2-300 dps higher in raids, havent tried bloodstalker in raid postpatch.

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    need huge AP for BD to work

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    Working well for me so far >_>

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    Why is 51bd/15sin not better than 10sin/5mm, dont you get 10% dmg extra from 15 in sin?

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    Obviously 15Sin is better than 10Sin/5MM? That's not the spec the OP was talking about now was it.

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    Because BD is still subpar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koe View Post
    Because BD is still subpar.
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    I was parsing 2.3k dps on the dummy with 51BD/10MM/5RS, so far its the highest parsing build I can come up with.
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    Grab fervor, test sin-rs on the dummy. BD is more then 200 dps lower on the dummy for me.

    NB parses higher for you? I'm surprised. For me on the dummy it's sin-rs > bd > nb, so I don't even have a NB spec right now.
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    Quite satisfied with BD myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruination View Post
    Quite satisfied with BD myself.
    Wait until Warriors get their fix. I was being beaten by clerics and mages as a BD. When warriors go back on top, where will that leave us? I was hoping BD would be more of a complete soul with good aoe and ST, to me it looks a tad subpar in both areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayi View Post
    Wait until Warriors get their fix. I was being beaten by clerics and mages as a BD. When warriors go back on top, where will that leave us? I was hoping BD would be more of a complete soul with good aoe and ST, to me it looks a tad subpar in both areas.
    BD has good ST and good AoE... Sub-par makes it sound like 51BD is a bad spec, which it really isn't. We're given a melee spec that can be used on a lot more fights where we can actually participate in AoE mechanics, target switching, and interrupts and all people do is spit on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitto View Post
    BD has good ST and good AoE... Sub-par makes it sound like 51BD is a bad spec, which it really isn't. We're given a melee spec that can be used on a lot more fights where we can actually participate in AoE mechanics, target switching, and interrupts and all people do is spit on it.
    I like bd and I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I'm going to keep trying different offsoul combos like 10 MM 5 RS and parsing it against nb and bloodstalker. I just expected it to be higher with the 1.7 changes.

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    I had fun trying out some stuff in HK today.

    First of all 51bd/15sin is parsing higher than 51bd/10sin/5rs.
    10%dmg > 15% AP, maybe with a bit more AP the later build is better.

    Bloodstalker kicks butt!

    So it's BS for single targets, BD for AoE/Thrash (Matron, Zilas, maybe Aky?) and MM where melee doesn't work. As is even MM gets around 3k dps without relict and GI.

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    I said this was going to happen when i first tested BD on the PTS. Some people will like it, and swear by it im sure, but IMO its not worth having around. It loses too much DPS if something gets out of melee range, managing the CD's is annoying, and it's AoE is not really that good anyway. No reason to run BD over 49NB IMO.
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