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    Default Asstalker vs Blink 'n' Blade: Which DPS is Better?

    Assuming a 4/4 Tier 1 Synergy Crystal for each (Assassin or Bladedancer) and a melee friendly Boss fight, which of the specs has higher DPS?

    I hear a lot about both of these, but I can't seem to piece together enough data from posts to determine which has the higher DPS.

    Thanks for whatever guidance and information you can provide.

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    Asstalker no question. Blinkblade doesn't even benefit from it's 4pc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaros View Post
    Asstalker no question. Blinkblade doesn't even benefit from it's 4pc.
    He's talking about the T1 crystal. I'd still say Bleedstalker (Asstalker just sounds ******ed) is higher DPS.
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    Why not just say Sinstalker, as it's part of the soul names?

    Sinstalker is going to be top DPS for a while until AP levels get a lot higher (probably once people are at 2500 AP), at which point builds that scale off of +%AP abilities will be higher DPS (namely Bladedancer).

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    I would agree that I find the name Asstalker to be somewhat unpalatable, but as it is the most commonly used name I used it for the sake of clarity.

    Thank you for the comments and feedback. I was using Blink 'n Blade because it was so close in execution to the solo build that I have been using for some time. I felt, however, that it just wasn't doing all the DPS that I could do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Freud View Post
    Why not just say Sinstalker, as it's part of the soul names?

    Sinstalker is going to be top DPS for a while until AP levels get a lot higher (probably once people are at 2500 AP), at which point builds that scale off of +%AP abilities will be higher DPS (namely Bladedancer).
    I thought so too but I don't think so anymore. Expose scales really well off ap and with the rotation you're maintaining expose weakness. The ap scaling on asstalker I think is the highest out of all rogue builds.

    Bladedancer I assumed would have been highest with the crazy scaling of contra tempo - but, it only effects two abilities. Keen and deadly strike scale poorly.

    I think when rogues were all complaining about using sabdancer, Trion went overboard in making sure sabdancer would be a dead build. Lower in the BD and sab trees both now suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Freud View Post
    Why not just say Sinstalker, as it's part of the soul names?

    Sinstalker is going to be top DPS for a while until AP levels get a lot higher (probably once people are at 2500 AP), at which point builds that scale off of +%AP abilities will be higher DPS (namely Bladedancer).
    At the absolutely highest, max-AP of the current tier, BD should beat Asstalker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaros View Post
    At the absolutely highest, max-AP of the current tier, BD should beat Asstalker.
    Which BD though, BD/MM/RS or BD/Sin/RS?

    I like the BD/Sin/RS rotation just because you can alternate Precision and Puncture every finisher, so you never have a 5 GCD rotation. Unfortunately, it will fall behind MM/RS eventually as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Freud View Post
    Which BD though, BD/MM/RS or BD/Sin/RS?

    I like the BD/Sin/RS rotation just because you can alternate Precision and Puncture every finisher, so you never have a 5 GCD rotation. Unfortunately, it will fall behind MM/RS eventually as well.
    Honestly I'm not sure. Serrated Blades adds a LOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Freud View Post
    Which BD though, BD/MM/RS or BD/Sin/RS?

    I like the BD/Sin/RS rotation just because you can alternate Precision and Puncture every finisher, so you never have a 5 GCD rotation. Unfortunately, it will fall behind MM/RS eventually as well.
    if mm werent such a high percent of its damage i would agree, but since em only scales off from the weapon i doubt it.
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    I do more dps with BlinkBlade (***/rs/bd) than with Asstalker

    Serrated Blades if I remember right is my second highest dps contributer behind Deadly strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by livnthedream View Post
    if mm werent such a high percent of its damage i would agree, but since em only scales off from the weapon i doubt it.
    EM? EM as far as I know only applies with ranged attacks, which aren't in the BD/MM/RS rotation. And EM isn't availabe in the 51/10/5 build anyway.

    For Bladedancer you only take 10MM for the +25% AP. Gameplay-wise you essentially pretend it doesn't exist, as you are exclusively using BD abilities (unless you're at range, of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mgrave66 View Post
    I do more dps with BlinkBlade (***/rs/bd) than with Asstalker

    Serrated Blades if I remember right is my second highest dps contributer behind Deadly strike.
    Bloodstalker is a much tougher rotation to run. If executed properly, it destroys blinkblade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunharrow View Post
    Bloodstalker is a much tougher rotation to run. If executed properly, it destroys blinkblade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunharrow View Post
    Bloodstalker is a much tougher rotation to run. If executed properly, it destroys blinkblade.
    It might, I have tried it once so Im sure my rotation was horrid. Was just keeping my buffs/debuffs(i.e impale, ruthless) up and FBing on 4 cps.
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