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    Default 1.6.1 doesn't change anything

    So, again.. the opportunity to give us Rogues something more falls through the wayside!!

    Giving us positional mastery was basically a waste when our 1 spec that comes within 150-200 dps of warrior melee REQUIRES us to be behind the target to get the most benefit.

    You gave us a little bump with the NB a couple weeks ago, and many parses have been uploaded. You guys could of did a little bit of research and tweak'd the spec accordingly.

    A few Changes that could possibly bring the 49nb/17sin spec up to Warrior melee.

    1) Make Blackout effect both Fire and Death based attacks. I still don't get why this hasn't been changed to it.

    2) Turn Lingering Flame into a 2/2 talent instead of 5/5. Make it 50/100%

    3) Take those 3 extra points and add 2 to Fire & Death Attunement, 2/4/6/8/10%
    Add the last point to Enkindle so 15/30/45/60%

    4) Please for the love of god, get rid of the ability Dusk to Dawn. Rename it "Nightrage" a 1 hour buff that increases NB finishers by 40%.

    I think those 4 things would go a long way. I don't see anything in there that would make some hybrid spec over powered. So with that, what ya think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spungey View Post
    1) Make Blackout effect both Fire and Death based attacks. I still don't get why this hasn't been changed to it.

    2) Turn Lingering Flame into a 2/2 talent instead of 5/5. Make it 50/100%

    3) Take those 3 extra points and add 2 to Fire & Death Attunement, 2/4/6/8/10%
    Add the last point to Enkindle so 15/30/45/60%

    4) Please for the love of god, get rid of the ability Dusk to Dawn. Rename it "Nightrage" a 1 hour buff that increases NB finishers by 40%.
    I could live with just #4 being put in. Although the other three parts would be very nice as well.

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    I could live with NB getting an interrupt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitto View Post
    I could live with NB getting an interrupt
    No.

    It needs an interrupt for PvE, but that is ignoring the PvP part.





    1.6.1 changes Grug, and that's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koe View Post
    No.

    It needs an interrupt for PvE, but that is ignoring the PvP part.





    1.6.1 changes Grug, and that's about it.
    I wouldn't even bothering using Asstalker for Grug..

    1) No AoE
    2) Placing yourself just right so you can get Double Cross and Backstab without catching that Tail Swipe, the range on it is pretty big
    3) Keeping buffs/Impale up with all his immunity time

    Some people can probably pull it off, but i'll stay with NB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koe View Post
    No.

    It needs an interrupt for PvE, but that is ignoring the PvP part.





    1.6.1 changes Grug, and that's about it.
    I don't know, it might be worth trying out Asstalker on Akylios now. Sure it has no AoE for the first 2 phases, but i would bet it catches up nicely once you get to p3 and p4.
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    1.6.1 makes me wonder what a particular person did for work the last 30 days
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyle View Post
    A rogue can top the parse on every boss in HK if they use the right spec, and it's been that way for months.

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    NB is better on grugonim anyway because the damage is more bursty. All that immune time is time when scourge of darkness is happily recharging to be used. Also apart from dusk to dawn I find NB enjoyable unlike bloodstalker which is kind of pain in the *** to play. From what I have seen the raw dps difference between them is quite small in a raid setting anyway.

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    Yea, I've seen a lot of rogues concerned that clerics will outdps us in ST damage post 1.6.1. Tonight the reality will show, and I think we'll still be ahead 100-200 dps at least, which is fine with me.

    1.6.1 wasn't really about rogues - it was about clerics. The blink fix is just something so the spec can be used on more then a couple of encounters.

    Despite nothing for rogues in the patch - you can't deny that it'll be a better overall game with cleric dps not being as pitiful as it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gery View Post
    NB is better on grugonim anyway because the damage is more bursty. All that immune time is time when scourge of darkness is happily recharging to be used. Also apart from dusk to dawn I find NB enjoyable unlike bloodstalker which is kind of pain in the *** to play. From what I have seen the raw dps difference between them is quite small in a raid setting anyway.
    I keep wondering why people keep commenting on xyz Rogue spec being better on xyz fights. The answer is reroll a Mage or Warrior. You are losing to them no matter what you do until 1.9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyle View Post
    A rogue can top the parse on every boss in HK if they use the right spec, and it's been that way for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petgroup View Post
    I keep wondering why people keep commenting on xyz Rogue spec being better on xyz fights. The answer is reroll a Mage or Warrior. You are losing to them no matter what you do until 1.9
    Too much work and someone has to provide lethal poison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gery View Post
    Too much work and someone has to provide lethal poison
    I coulda swore a certain Warrior spec can also do that
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyle View Post
    A rogue can top the parse on every boss in HK if they use the right spec, and it's been that way for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petgroup View Post
    I keep wondering why people keep commenting on xyz Rogue spec being better on xyz fights. The answer is reroll a Mage or Warrior. You are losing to them no matter what you do until 1.9
    I don't care about being the top on the DPS chart, as long as i am the top rogue on it. Control what you can control man. You can't decide who Trion is going to make the FoTM, or the terrible at everything class at any given time. All you can do is be better than everyone else at the class YOU play.
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    You asked for the teleport fixed and got it and now it is useless?

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    WOW Double post FTW
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