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    Default Best 1.6.1 Akylios spec

    We should now be able to use 20RB/* blink based specs (which seem to be the new top dog) on this fight, so which is best? 20RB/32SIN/14MM seems to be the top contender, my only worry is backstab and double cross will be wasted points since you can't get behind the tentacles or Akylios. I was wondering if 20RB/46NB/* might be better since it has no positional requirement and better AoE, assuming it's better than 49NB/17SIN/*.

    This assumes the ranged needed is covered by mages/clerics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroubleMagnet View Post
    We should now be able to use 20RB/* blink based specs (which seem to be the new top dog) on this fight, so which is best? 20RB/32SIN/14MM seems to be the top contender, my only worry is backstab and double cross will be wasted points since you can't get behind the tentacles or Akylios. I was wondering if 20RB/46NB/* might be better since it has no positional requirement and better AoE, assuming it's better than 49NB/17SIN/*.

    This assumes the ranged needed is covered by mages/clerics.
    1.6.1 really opens up nothing but blinkblade for aky.

    And why are you using blinkblade on aky when you could be using NB, or MM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koe View Post
    1.6.1 really opens up nothing but blinkblade for aky.

    And why are you using blinkblade on aky when you could be using NB, or MM?
    What makes NB superior to blink'butt in 1.6.1?

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    I've been using MM up until now as my guild doesn't have a ton of mages. I'm assuming the cleric DPS changes are coming with this patch so I can go melee for the DPS bump. I want to make sure I go for the biggest bump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroubleMagnet View Post
    We should now be able to use 20RB/* blink based specs (which seem to be the new top dog) on this fight, so which is best? 20RB/32SIN/14MM seems to be the top contender, my only worry is backstab and double cross will be wasted points since you can't get behind the tentacles or Akylios. I was wondering if 20RB/46NB/* might be better since it has no positional requirement and better AoE, assuming it's better than 49NB/17SIN/*.

    This assumes the ranged needed is covered by mages/clerics.
    What is RB?

    But really you should still be using MM on aky. Our top dps spec still relies on us being behind the target so bloodstalker is out - blinkblade is terrible after you have 4pc because it gives no benefit where other specs get a rather good one. Which leaves nb and mm. Most guilds need the ranged, nb has no interupt.. so.
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    Doh! RB=RS damm edit window.

    Ok, good to know my guess about bloodstalker sucking was right. Really wish they would fix BD and it's crystal to be worth using more so I could have an interrupt in more melee builds :/ Why oh why didn't they make it's 4pc be deadly strike does 40% more damage?
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    1.6.1 does nothing for rogues. The new blink mechanic still doesn't mean much because max dps for Asstalker comes from being behind the target.

    Honestly, I had my hopes high for something good to happen..but again and again and again I am let down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunharrow View Post
    What makes NB superior to blink'butt in 1.6.1?
    There were no changes to NB.
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    Well, it makes it useable on Grug. Yay?

    Has anyone parsed nightstalker (46NB/20RS) to see how it compares to the other melee specs? I don't remember seeing it come up in the other threads. I'm guessing it got ignored since 49NB/17SIN was close or better and didn't get you killed.
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    Nb/rs was awful for a few reasons.

    No Serrated blades.
    The riftstalker buffs are inferior to the sin ones.
    No Magnify pain.
    Going 46 points vs going 49 points is a big difference.

    It was a dps loss on top of making nightblade more complicated.

    Edit: NB will still be better than bloodstalker on grug. You really lose a lot not being able to attack from behind a target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightcrawler View Post
    Nb/rs was awful for a few reasons.

    No Serrated blades.
    The riftstalker buffs are inferior to the sin ones.
    No Magnify pain.
    Going 46 points vs going 49 points is a big difference.

    It was a dps loss on top of making nightblade more complicated.

    Edit: NB will still be better than bloodstalker on grug. You really lose a lot not being able to attack from behind a target.
    Doesn't make much sense to keep NB around for that one fight. Every other fight pretty much has MM or Bloodstalker in front.
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    The only viable alternate NB build other than 49NB17Sin that I'm aware of is 51NB10MM/5RS, and that's only if you have godly amounts of AP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightcrawler View Post
    Nb/rs was awful for a few reasons.

    No Serrated blades.
    The riftstalker buffs are inferior to the sin ones.
    No Magnify pain.
    Going 46 points vs going 49 points is a big difference.

    It was a dps loss on top of making nightblade more complicated.

    Edit: NB will still be better than bloodstalker on grug. You really lose a lot not being able to attack from behind a target.
    I think Bloodstalker could do better on grug with practice, its not really that difficult to position yourself to get backstab/double cross without getting tailswiped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedrummmmer View Post
    I think Bloodstalker could do better on grug with practice, its not really that difficult to position yourself to get backstab/double cross without getting tailswiped.
    Considering "behind" is slightly to the right of the middle leg which people normally align themselves with, it isn't a problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightcrawler View Post
    Nb/rs was awful for a few reasons.

    No Serrated blades.
    The riftstalker buffs are inferior to the sin ones.
    No Magnify pain.
    Going 46 points vs going 49 points is a big difference.

    It was a dps loss on top of making nightblade more complicated.

    Edit: NB will still be better than bloodstalker on grug. You really lose a lot not being able to attack from behind a target.
    You can attack grug from behind without getting hit by the tail whip. Just not where the blinks take you. (according to hoko it's by the back leg)

    I still don't think it's worth it to use sin/rs on grug because so much of the dps relies on keeping impale up.

    You saying 46 is worse than 49nb?

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    I'd say 51mm/15sin0rs is best for akylios. That's what I've been beating the other rogues in my guild with.

    49nb/17sin Might be good if you don't need to interrupt.
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