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    ..is there one ?

    Imo, bards deliver "their" dps by boosting others, so i wouldnt go all in on dex and ap, but have a healthy mix outta dex, ap and end (to simply stay alive and do your songs).

    Trinkets, essences: from what i read, better go for shielding than for healing, cause bards overheal a lot anyway.

    Last but not least: anyone know of a good (and up to date, i.e. 1.6) raid bard guide ?

    Thx in advance.

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    51bard/13bd/2rs for max HPS/DPS in melee.
    51bard/10mm/5rs for max HPS/DPS in range when you got some HH-items.
    51bard/8nb/7rng for max HPS/DPS in range when your in T1.

    32bard/17sin/17bd for 10mans (you lose VoJ, but gain a nice HPS/DPS boost).

    Shield essences > Heal essences.
    AP > 3Crit.

    For AoE:
    Cadence - Flash of Steel - Coda of Distress
    Riff - Coda of Cowardice
    Cadence - Twin Strike - Twin Strike - Deadly Strike (repeat).

    Apply Coda of Jep first against single target if you have to and keep motives and debuffs up. Otherwise simply spam Cadence + Deadly Strike if heal is needed and switch to BD-abilites + Deadly Strike when there's nothing to heal.
    Motif of Regeneration should apply your shields nicely, but you might want to start healing 2-3seconds before incoming AoE to preapply a few more shieldproccs.

    PS:
    BiS for bards is the same as for damage dealers, except for the essences and trinket. And for those shield proccs > heal proccs.
    And you don't need any extra endurance, you got 10% more HP anyways and you shouldn't get any more hits than any other damage dealer or supporter.
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    theres an essenz where healse can proc + ap/sp on healdtarget

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnaa View Post
    theres an essenz where healse can proc + ap/sp on healdtarget
    its terrible, dont use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnaa View Post
    theres an essenz where healse can proc + ap/sp on healdtarget
    It blows. Best greater's are Frozen Deep One Tear and Hailstone Tideshard. Best trinket so far is Token of Warding.

    And 40 Bard is about as low as you can go and be an effective bard. For any real content, you want to be 51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnaa View Post
    theres an essenz where healse can proc + ap/sp on healdtarget
    shields > all

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    My guild doesnt do RoS anymore, so i wont get ToW from Alsbeth.
    Does Golem Inductor proc from cadence ? Or which trinket should i go for ?
    Using the world event one still, think its listed 5th or 6th best in BiS list.

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    shoe or the pvp trinket. depends on what you are doing and if you want to farm out shoe or not.
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    Am playing pure PvE, so shoe seems the way to go then.
    My question still stands tho - does golem inductor proc from cadence ?

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    You don't want the Golem Inductor for Barding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaros View Post
    You don't want the Golem Inductor for Barding.
    Hm, k. Read a post from Mayi (maybe 2 weeks ago) that proc rate might have been ninja upped, but well.


    About 10man bards - would you pro bards (Koe, Durango, Mayi, Gambiit and the likes) go with something like this

    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree/p...vkyG2Gy8/w99x0

    or would it be better to go Sin instead of Nb ?

    Edit: I like ranged specs, so thats why MM is in.
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    I sort of like where the specc is going but to be honest, put 4 points less into Nightblade and get Verse of Vitality. Hellfire blades does not procc on Cadence and Verse just ups your HPS.

    For 10 man raids Melee Bard (13+ points in BD) is probably superior, but then again its Melee ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huca View Post
    Hm, k. Read a post from Mayi (maybe 2 weeks ago) that proc rate might have been ninja upped, but well.


    About 10man bards - would you pro bards (Koe, Durango, Mayi, Gambiit and the likes) go with something like this

    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree/p...vkyG2Gy8/w99x0

    or would it be better to go Sin instead of Nb ?

    Edit: I like ranged specs, so thats why MM is in.
    For 10-mans, it really depends on how experienced your group is, and the composition.


    51 Bard 15 Ranger can be good, 51 Bard 15 BD can be good, 32 Bard 13 BD 21 Sin can be good, 44Bard 9 MM/Sin 13 BD can be good.

    32 Bard 15 Ranger 19 MM can be good.




    Really, you can be pretty creative with Bard depending on the composition. More physical/don't need heals = Run 32 Bard/15 Ranger/19MM or 32 Bard 13 BD 21 Sin. Ranger for armor debuff, Sin for Lethal Poison. you can, of course, combine the two if you would like as well; It would just lower personal DPS.
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    Also using 44/22 or 40/26 Bard/RS for the second boss in RotP (and sometimes on other stuff when I don't care about VoJ but want the extra mobility or tankyness) to offtank add while still interrupting the boss.

    And cadence x3 > deadly strike is really more healing than using coda of restoration as finisher for Bard/BD specs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethanol View Post
    And cadence x3 > deadly strike is really more healing than using coda of restoration as finisher for Bard/BD specs?
    Depends on the spec.

    Bard/BD/Sin gets more healing from cadence(y halo thar 600+ cadence crits), and it's 3 cadences with a stopcast macro.


    However, if you're going 51 Bard it's generally more HPS to use CoR. On fights with constant low AoE, like Sicaron, cadence+DD is usually better(not to mention the damage buff).


    Edit: and it's always best to utilize both. Such as Grug. Use Cadence/DD, but make sure you have 5 CPs for the knockback. Time the delayed heal of VoV, and then CoR right after. Use Power Chord/Melee skills while you're shuffling to get CPs back up.
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