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    Default Baneful Blade (T2 Life PA Enchant) tests

    Thought I'd leave this here for anybody who might be thinking of dropping PAs into this talent.

    Baneful Blade can be applied to both equipped 1-handed weapons at the cost of 1 planar charge each. It cannot be used on the ranged weapon slot. There is no noticeable difference between applying it to one or both weapons.

    Baneful Blade does not proc on any ranged weapon attacks. This includes both marksman and ranger abilities. I find this especially odd, as it is the life PA enchant--the tree that focuses entirely on bow and gun specialization.

    To be sure I wasn't just not seeing it proc, I ran this sample MM parse with Baneful on both weapons:

    http://imgur.com/qFnVl

    Self-buffed, nobody else hitting the dummy, 0 procs.

    The enchant does proc on melee ability attacks, but very infrequently. I do not run melee builds for HK at the moment, so I tested the enchant on one of my melee PvP builds (38 NB / 28 RS). It results in 20-25 DPS over 5 minutes, as seen here:

    http://imgur.com/KDjtI

    Did this one in PvP gear to see how much dummy DPS the spec does at the same time.

    I also tested it with my Estrode spec (46 sab) to see if it worked with charges. It only procs off detonate:

    http://imgur.com/JsMvg

    The short of it: Baneful Blade only works on melee attack abilities, and even then only results in 20-25 DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trephination View Post
    Baneful Blade does not proc on any ranged weapon attacks. This includes both marksman and ranger abilities. I find this especially odd, as it is the life PA enchant--the tree that focuses entirely on bow and gun specialization.
    That's really dumb.

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    Par for the course with rogues. Are we still the only calling with both a dps gun and dps bow PA attunement? Do others just have "ranged"?

    Yea...

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    I'd really like to re-roll my planar attunement points. I skipped around like an idiot and put points into fire and death, so it's taking me forever to get to tier 2.

    Saw some dude in wf w\ " Lightning Glyph " on each weapon for +30 dex per dagger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archemys View Post
    I'd really like to re-roll my planar attunement points. I skipped around like an idiot and put points into fire and death, so it's taking me forever to get to tier 2.

    Saw some dude in wf w\ " Lightning Glyph " on each weapon for +30 dex per dagger.
    Why not use fine whetstones instead for a 4DPS increase, they are super cheap. You'd need 40 attack power to be the same thing, which is 80 dexterity. Of course, they aren't free... but it's not like money should be an issue for anyone these days.

    I take it you can't use the glyph and whetstones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traciatim View Post
    I take it you can't use the glyph and whetstones?
    Nope, it's one or the other.

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    Screw you Trion for not making it work for ranged attacks.

    And screw you for letting rogue dps still be mediocre while mages and warriors are top

    Screw you for making Rogue tanking always be the underdog.

    Screw you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trephination View Post
    The short of it: Baneful Blade only works on melee attack abilities, and even then only results in 20-25 DPS.

    Don't waste your PAs.
    Reminds me of all the HK Trinkets.

    Absolutely useless. Thanks for being the guinea pig
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    I was hoping someone would test this out >_<

    Thanks for sacrificing your PA points, sucks that it's bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traciatim View Post
    Why not use fine whetstones instead for a 4DPS increase, they are super cheap. You'd need 40 attack power to be the same thing, which is 80 dexterity. Of course, they aren't free... but it's not like money should be an issue for anyone these days.

    I take it you can't use the glyph and whetstones?
    Its more than 40AP, it applies directly to the weapon's damage calculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTM300 View Post
    Par for the course with rogues. Are we still the only calling with both a dps gun and dps bow PA attunement? Do others just have "ranged"?

    Yea...
    LOL, the one other calling that can even wield a Gun/Bow doesn't use it for anything other than a stat stick.

    Sucks about that not working off ranged attacks. Hopefully that gets fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qan View Post
    I was hoping someone would test this out >_<

    Thanks for sacrificing your PA points, sucks that it's bad.
    I'd have laughed seriously hard if it procced every other hit, or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaros View Post
    I'd have laughed seriously hard if it procced every other hit, or something.
    Still probably wouldn't be worth it.

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    Glad you tested this, having just filled the T2-Life gun PA's was contemplating whether to continue for the Baneful Blade - well that's 900 points saved

    Guess I'll head back to filling-in the Air tree now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowprison View Post
    Its more than 40AP, it applies directly to the weapon's damage calculation.
    what he is saying is 4 dps to a 1h is just like what 40ap gives you.

    So using +30 dex on each hand is a waste. Your getting 60 dex, so 30ap and 60 crit, and that AP will give you 3 dps on your main hand(+ AP contribution abilities bonus.)

    So using 2 +5 whetstones will give you 10dps increase. All tier 2 600 point abilities are worthless since they don't stack with whetstones.
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