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    Default 51MM looking to start with macros

    So the guildies tell me that I am mising the boat by not using macros. I have read on what they are and how to use them, what I am wondering now is what macros work best for a 51 MM to peak DPS ? Any suggestions are much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merk13 View Post
    So the guildies tell me that I am mising the boat by not using macros. I have read on what they are and how to use them, what I am wondering now is what macros work best for a 51 MM to peak DPS ? Any suggestions are much appreciated.
    In the sticky thread there are links to several builds and people who post builds. Follow those links to the 51MM flavor and style of your choice. There are macros there.

    I also think it makes a difference if you have the raid set MM crystal.

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    Builder
    cast Empowered Shot
    cast Shadow Fire
    cast Piercing Shot
    cast Crippling Shot
    cast Swift Shot

    Finisher
    cast Rapid Fire Shot
    cast Deadeye Shot
    cast Hasted Shot

    All you need for macros. Manually fire a Quick Shot after each finisher.

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    These are macros for my 51MM/14RNG/1RS Raid Build.

    Builder
    #show Shadow Fire
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Shadow Fire
    cast Crippling Shot
    cast Quick Shot

    Finisher
    #show Bull's Eye
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Bull's Eye
    cast Deadeye Shot

    AOE
    #show Crossfire
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Crossfire
    cast Lightning Fury
    cast Fan Out

    I would strongly recommend you to bind Head Shot & Rapid Fire Shot to separate keys. The reason for this is simply to keep your rotation as efficient as possible. For example Rapid Fire Shot is only to be used when you have 5 combo points, Head Shot on the other hand could be used starting with 3 combo points without a dps loss.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dunharrow View Post
    Builder
    cast Empowered Shot
    cast Shadow Fire
    cast Piercing Shot
    cast Crippling Shot
    cast Swift Shot

    All you need for macros. Manually fire a Quick Shot after each finisher.
    What's the point of using SS over QS in macro ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PORTERR View Post
    What's the point of using SS over QS in macro ?
    Only in pvp would it be better imo, for pve there is no point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiliconShadow View Post
    Only in pvp would it be better imo, for pve there is no point.
    More dps helps in pve...

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    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    Dont see why people macro Shadow fire.

    The C/D is shorter than the buff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    More dps helps in pve...
    So you are saying that SS does more dps than QS ? lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by PORTERR View Post
    So you are saying that SS does more dps than QS ? lol
    I like your smarmy laugh of superiority. Don't ever change.

    You put SS in your macro instead of QS because you are refreshing your QS after each finisher, and it needs time to tick. If you have QS in the macro, you will overwrite the dot and lower your damage. "lol"

    Now then, I'm sure any second now, some dip will come along and pull my **** out of context in a misguided attempt to make me look bad.
    Last edited by Dunharrow; 12-04-2011 at 09:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunharrow View Post
    Builder
    cast Empowered Shot
    cast Shadow Fire
    cast Piercing Shot
    cast Crippling Shot
    cast Swift Shot

    Finisher
    cast Rapid Fire Shot
    cast Deadeye Shot
    cast Hasted Shot

    All you need for macros. Manually fire a Quick Shot after each finisher.
    Empowered if you have the MM crystal and add Lightning Fury.

    I don't macro SF but thats up to individuals taste.

    Maybe add Bullseye before Deadeye also.

    Diminishing Sentence length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PORTERR View Post
    So you are saying that SS does more dps than QS ? lol
    Dun is right if you use QS you are clipping the bleed hence reducing your overall dps. Also for the finisher macro place bullseye just above DES.
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    Is it a dps increase to shadow fire on CD?
    (I know the buff needs to be kept up *derp* but isnt it a dps loss to put it in the macro rather than time the reapplication manually?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunharrow View Post
    I like your smarmy laugh of superiority. Don't ever change.

    You put SS in your macro instead of QS because you are refreshing your QS after each finisher, and it needs time to tick. If you have QS in the macro, you will overwrite the dot and lower your damage. "lol"

    Now then, I'm sure any second now, some dip will come along and pull my **** out of context in a misguided attempt to make me look bad.
    Oh i see, but that is such insignificant number because the time you spent on finishers, Crippling Shot, Shadow Fire gives enough time for QS to tick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyAj2 View Post
    Is it a dps increase to shadow fire on CD?
    (I know the buff needs to be kept up *derp* but isnt it a dps loss to put it in the macro rather than time the reapplication manually?)
    I'll be completely honest. I'm terrible at monitoring my buffs. Rift doesn't have any way to prioritize self buffs and I can't turn off other's buffs because I lead raids and I need to be able to tell when we're buffed, or if Living Energy is up after the bard dies, etc.

    Bear in mind that at most you are going to use it 3 seconds early. It comes off CD at 20s and the buff lasts for 25s but it has a 2s cast time, so the earliest it can possibly hit is 22s after the last one.

    I setup my macro and rotation so that I can put as much delay as possible after SF comes off CD before its used.

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    cast Empowered Shot
    cast Shadow Fire
    cast Piercing Shot
    cast Crippling Shot
    cast Swift Shot

    When SF comes off CD, its usually during the finisher part of my rotation. I then manually fire a QS and my macro fires an ES before SF is fired, so the buff is pretty close to dropping. The worst case scenario is it comes off CD when I'm at 4 CPs and then it will fire and not only clip the buff, but waste the extra CP. This usually only happens once per fight, if that, so I consider it an acceptable risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by PORTERR View Post
    Oh i see, but that is such insignificant number because the time you spent on finishers, Crippling Shot, Shadow Fire gives enough time for QS to tick.
    I agree. Its only a small increase, but it is an increase. There will be some rotations where your macro would work pretty well by itself, and some where you will do 3 QS in a row. If you don't think its worth it to split it out, then you should run 2/3 IQS and just put QS in your macro instead of Swift. Its probably less than a 50 DPS swing.

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    swift shot and IQS do the same dmg, no reason to not have your IQS in the macro. shadow fire should be above empowered shot, clipping 3 seconds on your shadow fire might cost you what 5 dps? having shadow fire not up is going to cost you even more. DERP but what do i know.

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