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    Default 38NB/28RS Guide (Talent, Macro, Rotation, Tips)

    Read it here!

    Comments & Critics are very welcome.
    Feel free to reply here, or on the link.
    Advice for changes and improving is very much appreciated.
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    This spec is so easy to play, don't get me wrong it's a fun spec but i don't know I think there should be more melee specs people run instead of this, because this spec is all i see.

    and i am currently running the nightman spec

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    Yeah, that's true.
    But still, it's easy to play, but harder to become good at it.
    Still this is a great spec to start off with.
    And even for R8's this build is extremely good.
    I'll work on other classes soon.
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    Tbh 51Nb/15Inf is the way to go for group play.

    The damage difference on SoD is so noticeable, and you can create much more offensive pressure with cleanse soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowprison View Post
    Tbh 51Nb/15Inf is the way to go for group play.

    The damage difference on SoD is so noticeable, and you can create much more offensive pressure with cleanse soul.
    I prefer 38NB/28RS over 51nb/15inf, as Zyzyx said

    First of all scourge of darkness isn't burst. Sure it boosts your damage ,but don't confuse it with abilities like RFS, DES, and lightning burst. That do 3k-5k damage. SoD does no damage and instead buffs your next attacks.

    Let's look closer. At 44 points we get 3 SoD procs and 6% death damage. To get those points you have to waste several talent points. They may not entirely be a waste ,but very minor dps boosts. DPS doesn't matter in pvp, burst does. Going 44 in nightblade does not increase your burst significantly at all. You can get all the key damage talents in nightblade for 36 points or so. 38 points in nightblade is key in pvp for Twilight transcendence.

    Now let's look at riftstalker. Gaining those 6 extra points gives you
    1.around 8% more physical mitigation
    2/3.the ability to go more defensive with Improved rift guard and Improved guardian phase
    4.the best rogue cc in rift prison
    5.a break free in freedom of movement

    It's a no brainer to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemoa View Post
    I preffer 38NB/28RS over 51nb/15inf, as Zyzyx said
    SoD is what kills things.

    51Nb/15Inf is the only build that can kill trollicars.

    38Nb/28Rs sounds good on paper, but you actually lose damage by taking riftstalker.

    This is because you miss out on the +10% crit damage bonus, +6% damage against players bonus, + 20% Bonus from Focused intent, and +13% as well as 10 SoD procs (essentially using it twice) from blackout.

    Nightblade isn't a 100% melee class, it can do without the riftstalker ports, which are technically wasted GCDs gap closing and boosting damage.


    Living flame + SoD is the only rogue combo out there that can reliably burst down healers.



    Rift prison seems great, till you realise that all CC is on the same DR for control. Which means that one lost hope + Dark containment they are already 100% immune. Its so very situational, and only really good for killing Vessel/Fang carriers with all the CC breaks running around out there.

    Guard phase is terrible against anything that's not assassin, or physical. It requires the mirror + heal on deflect essences to be decent.


    P.S.: At rank 6 I haven't taken a RFS above 1.6k.
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    You've been 50 for like a day. Sure, post guides about PvP specs. And not an original spec, but a spec people have been using since before you made your character. Great. And don't actually post the guide, just make an empty post with a link. Wondrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunharrow View Post
    You've been 50 for like a day. Sure, post guides about PvP specs. And not an original spec, but a spec people have been using since before you made your character. Great. And don't actually post the guide, just make an empty post with a link. Wondrous.
    I've been 50 for a week.
    I've read through tons of guides.
    I''ve made a more-detailed version of a build used "before" my character even existed.

    Yet I still made an informative guide, which will help people out.
    Do you feel good? Do you feel pro?
    Go cry somewhere else, I'm just helping people out.

    Instead of just crying you could just give constructive criticism like ShadowPrison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowprison View Post
    Tbh 51Nb/15Inf is the way to go for group play.

    The damage difference on SoD is so noticeable, and you can create much more offensive pressure with cleanse soul.
    Post a guide... curious to see (or i suppose i could be non lazy and just work it out)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudge View Post
    Post a guide... curious to see (or i suppose i could be non lazy and just work it out)
    All I'm gonna say is if you are in melee range against a melee class when your Ebon Fury is up, you doin' it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowprison View Post
    All I'm gonna say is if you are in melee range against a melee class when your Ebon Fury is up, you doin' it wrong.
    Yeah figured, and for inf do you go focused intent?
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    In a group situation, If you want to b a warrior tank 38nb/28 rs is the way to go. if u want to b a threat and BURST targets down 51 nb/15infil is the way to go. and yes SoD is burst damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemoa View Post
    I've been 50 for a week.
    I've read through tons of guides.
    I''ve made a more-detailed version of a build used "before" my character even existed.

    Yet I still made an informative guide, which will help people out.
    Do you feel good? Do you feel pro?
    Go cry somewhere else, I'm just helping people out.

    Instead of just crying you could just give constructive criticism like ShadowPrison.
    You didn't post a guide. You posted a link. You haven't helped anyone. Probably ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunharrow View Post
    You didn't post a guide. You posted a link. You haven't helped anyone. Probably ever.
    I posted a "link" to a guide.
    Deal with it
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    I've been running this on the alt for like 2 months suddenly there is a guide. I speced into the second port back in 1.5 when they nerfed the 44 NB cd. Also rarely use 0 pt infil, so instead I run 0 BD or you could run 0 sab to have even more exit melee-range options.

    I'll be honest this is not a burst damage spec. It produces enough pressure on healers to get DPS-ers attention and this is what makes it a good tanking spec. It's not a chart topper like NB-Sin or NB-Inf or 51MM or MM-Sin...
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