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    Default What spec can beat heal on block warrior spec in a duel?

    Generally I do real well in duels, but this warrior spec is impossable to beat. Its riftblade with vk, not sure what the 3rd soul is, but the warrior has 2 heal on block greaters, one for 650hp one for 500, and the mirror trinker which is like 2k heal. He basically heals so much dmg, thats its impossble to bring him down and he will outlast you. Also impossble to kite with MM. Is there a spec I can use to kill that?

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    Any spec using a load of hit.
    350+ hit will just ignore the shield.
    Also, having -50% healing taken on him saves alot.

    Nevertheless, a warrior going like that should be CC-ed and ignored.
    If he chooses to have 10k health, let him run around with that hitting nothing but air.

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    dueling as a rogue is futile

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    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    dueling as a rogue is futile
    I think you need to nap.


    Kite and purge the warrior. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre1 View Post
    Generally I do real well in duels, but this warrior spec is impossable to beat. Its riftblade with vk, not sure what the 3rd soul is, but the warrior has 2 heal on block greaters, one for 650hp one for 500, and the mirror trinker which is like 2k heal. He basically heals so much dmg, thats its impossble to bring him down and he will outlast you. Also impossble to kite with MM. Is there a spec I can use to kill that?
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    After trion buffed tanks, you simply can't win against that warrior.
    They have 10k+ hp, over the top mitigation and can deal surprisingly high elemental damage while equipped with a shield.

    It's always been like that, learn to accept.
    Last edited by Ayuna; 11-29-2011 at 05:12 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cromagis View Post
    I think you need to nap.


    Kite and purge the warrior. :3
    Kite someone with more hp who does more damage at range than you and is constantly self healing himself good luck =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    Kite someone with more hp who does more damage at range than you and is constantly self healing himself good luck =/
    Does not do more ranged damage, and if he is 38vk/28rb... you will not win. It is a dueling/open world spec mean to whittle down the opponent. A few good rogues can still pull the win though, but it is tough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJoyTheSilence View Post
    Does not do more ranged damage, and if he is 38vk/28rb... you will not win. It is a dueling/open world spec mean to whittle down the opponent. A few good rogues can still pull the win though, but it is tough.
    They do more damage to you than you do to them.
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    So any ideas here?

    Stuff I tried so far:

    Any purely melle spec does not work, because he will just kite me and spear me to death, takes a while but its impossble to beat.

    Any RS tank build doesnt work ether, see above, he will outlast it easy.

    MM doesn't work ether, cause he constantly purge my munitions which makes my dmg bad, and i cant effectively kite ether, not to mention i have like 7k on MM, and squishy, and he has over 10k.
    Last edited by Andre1; 11-29-2011 at 06:44 PM.

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    Not much you can do.
    The mirror has pretty much won the duel for him.
    Without the mirror you have a 5% chance

    I run a VK/pally and have no lost one duel against rogues.
    Mages just walk away
    clerics are the same
    Warriors are the ones i actually have to try against

    So, my advice dont bother
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    51 Sins beat 38VK.

    33RB/33PAL beats 51Sin.

    51NB beats 33RB/33PAL.

    38VK beats 51NB and all variants.

    20BD/24Sin/22RS beats both (actually not sure now in 1.6 post RS nerf).

    Average MM loses to 33RB/33PAL.

    Very good MM beats 33RB/33PAL.

    38VK/28RB has a 10-20% higher chance of beating very good MM than 33RB/33PAL.

    38VK/28PAL beats everything
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    link to 38/28 pls i might play my war a bit and test it

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaruslav View Post
    link to 38/28 pls i might play my war a bit and test it
    What's there to test. You sit there and /afk while the Rogue kills himself.
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    The spec does not matter, just about any of them can beat a warrior like that.

    What matters is hit, you need almost as much (if not more) hit %age than he has block %age. I use a lot of my HK gear +51sin/15mm for armor pen and burst and I beat warriors. You won't win without hit though. It really is messed up that you are required to pve to be better in pvp. I made a suggestion thread about vengeance doubling as hit vs players only, but it didnt really go anywhere.

    Vs a war like that I use 280 hit + whitefall bubble trinket + sidesteps. Slip away when they use rift surge and you will win every time, even if they full heal. Try to use enduring brew early (after you've lost over 2k hp) in case the fight goes over 2 mins and you can use it again.
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