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    Default [Fix] Token Shoulder ?

    Anyone know if Trion is going to fix stats given by the Token Shoulder, i mean, last time, i was comparing this Tokenthat cost 80 Mark + the Token, vs the one you loot in HK (Matron?), and we loose 15 (or 25) AP, to just win 1 Crit, there is a problem there, Token should always be better than loot no ?

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    Should be the other way around, drops should always be better than tokens because for the token pieces you can use them to fill any slot (the ones you don't get a drop for), making tokens more valuable.

    At the moment it is:

    sub T2<token T2<drop T2<relic token T2.

    Which is good.

    If tokens are meant to be better, then bosses should not drop loot, just tokens, hexed pieces and non token pieces (jewellery and weapons).
    Last edited by wingedarr0w; 11-09-2011 at 02:26 AM. Reason: because i sucked the grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingedarr0w View Post
    If tokens were meant to be better, then bosses should not drop loot, just tokens, hexed pieces and non token pieces (jewellery and weapons).
    This is what they should be doing anyway

    (Gear)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adnoz View Post
    This is what they should be doing anyway
    I would not mind that, I hate RNG.

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    Zardonis' Ebon Shoulderpads
    Bind on pickup
    Leather Armor
    Shoulders
    Armor 673
    Dexterity +49
    Strength +23
    Endurance +16
    Critical Hit +31
    Attack Power +16

    vs

    Nightmare Shoulderguards
    Bind on pickup
    Leather Armor
    Shoulders
    Armor 604
    Dexterity +44
    Endurance +17
    Critical Hit +35
    Attack Power +18

    I'm sorry, but where did you lose 15(25) Attack Power?

    Can I have some of what your high on?

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    ^ what he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exterm View Post
    Token should always be better than loot no ?
    Aaaahhhmm...
    Maybe cos the Token gear ALSO gets BONUS from the CRYSTAL?
    Herp...

    So yes, drop gear should be better than token one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taraern View Post
    Zardonis' Ebon Shoulderpads
    Bind on pickup
    Leather Armor
    Shoulders
    Armor 673
    Dexterity +49
    Strength +23
    Endurance +16
    Critical Hit +31
    Attack Power +16

    vs

    Nightmare Shoulderguards
    Bind on pickup
    Leather Armor
    Shoulders
    Armor 604
    Dexterity +44
    Endurance +17
    Critical Hit +35
    Attack Power +18

    I'm sorry, but where did you lose 15(25) Attack Power?

    Can I have some of what your high on?
    First, because :
    (49+23)/2 + 16 = 52 AP
    49+31 = 80 Critical
    and
    44/2 + 18 = 40 AP
    44+35 = 79 Critical

    So, a legendary item T4 (that loose 12 AP... ok was not 15 ... and have +1 Critical), should be less good than a normal T4 loot ? It's a legendary item, not a purple one ...
    If we were doing the comparison between the normal T4 mark and the T4 loot, ok ... but the token hem.
    Last edited by Exterm; 11-09-2011 at 05:37 AM.

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    Zardonis' Ebon Shoulderpads
    (49dex+23str)/2 + 16ap = 52 AP
    (49dex+31crit) = 80 Crit

    vs

    Nightmare Shoulderguards
    (44dex)/2 + 18ap = 40 AP
    (44dex+35crit) = 79 Crit

    The relic shoulders provide 12AP and 1 Crit.
    The relic shoulders are better.
    Last edited by Qan; 11-09-2011 at 08:42 AM.
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    Is it just me or do the relic shoulders have better AP and crit, and some people are just ****ing dlyxeisc?

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    I just ... smoked oO

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    Lol... it was 5 in the morning...
    Last edited by Qan; 11-09-2011 at 08:42 AM.
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    Relic vendor > drop > regular vendor

    is how it should be, IMO, and it almost always is. Although that's usually more down to crap itemisation than anything else, but w/e.

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    should fix the ebon gloves if anything, just give it abit of AP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exterm View Post
    I just ... smoked oO
    Yeah.. You must have been smoking some good stuff..

    That's for sure..

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