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    Default Change magnify pain to melee only and move to below 15 points

    This change would allow 51 blade 15 sin to compete with HK 4-pc MM.

    51 Bladedancer would be viable for almost the same amount of encounters as MM as there's no positional requirement or teleports that port you into tail cleaves.

    One of the main goals of 1.5 was so that rogues would have other raiding specs besides Sabdancer. In HK, MM has basically replaced sabdancer as main raiding spec, especially once you have 4-pc HK gear.

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    no dont do it until you fix sab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    Wouldnt it make some other melee souls a lot more powerful.? like nightblade or sab even not sure we will see.=P

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    Agreed. Right now there is no real reason to use anything other than 51 MM 15 RNG for dps. Good single, good aoe, interrupt/silence, purge, the only thing it inherently lacks is a CC-break, which you can get from Infiltrator.

    The only other spec(s) that can really compete are blinkblade and bloodstalker. Though those put you into melee range, constantly throw you behind the mob (not always a good thing), and require you to keep track of a 10 second buff, or lose 15% damage and 15% crit when it isnt up. So you have to deal with the dangers of being in melee range, and work with a somewhat cumbersome build, in order to... not outdps 51MM? Maybe get close, but not very likely to outdps.

    The thing about 51BD is that it is a nice middle ground. You have to be in melee, and all that that entails. But you are not position dependent, you have a ranged interrupt, 1, or even 2 cc-breaks. And your damage output depends on keeping track of a fairly simple rotation, as well as using 4 21-second buffs in a timely manner. So its not the cumbersome "hit this button every 10 seconds and go flying" riftstalker rotation, nor is it the almost faceroll 3-4 button MM rotation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diebymyhands View Post
    Wouldnt it make some other melee souls a lot more powerful.? like nightblade or sab even not sure we will see.=P
    The best hybrid melee specs already have magnify pain in them. The bladedancer crystal forces you to go 51 point blade to take advantage of the 4-pc bonus but the spec is behind MM by a couple hundred dps at HK non-relic gear levels. This change would close the gap and give rogues a versatile melee raiding spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenji1134 View Post
    require you to keep track of a 10 second buff, or lose 15% damage and 15% crit when it isnt up.
    Don't know if you tried this addon but I find it's ideal for BlinkBlade and Bloodstalker. Displays clearly when you need to refresh buffs.

    http://www.curse.com/addons/rift/nkrebuff

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