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    Default How Hard Will We Be Nerfed In 1.6 and Do We Have It Coming?

    Hard and Yes
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    Quality post there OP, good job buddy.

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    eh? only pvp nerfs so far that i've seen, those are needed but nothing i care about (pve).
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    Just a troll.

    I love how 'rogues are OP' because we beat a warrior in a parse once. It's like it's in the class description that warriors should be top dps or have the least deaths and most PKs in pvp, and anything higher must be because of a bug or it's OP. What does that make warriors from 1.0 - 1.4.
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    Hmm,

    well from the patch notes

    Mild upgrade to bard
    Massive buff to RS
    Minor Nerf to builds that use RS for DPS (loss of 1 GCD per minute of DPS)
    Massive PVP MM nerf (actually not, pretty minor, but lets make people happy and say massive)
    Big arse PVE mm AE nerf with changes to munitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naginataka View Post
    Hmm,

    well from the patch notes

    Mild upgrade to bard
    Massive buff to RS
    Minor Nerf to builds that use RS for DPS (loss of 1 GCD per minute of DPS)
    Massive PVP MM nerf (actually not, pretty minor, but lets make people happy and say massive)
    Big arse PVE mm AE nerf with changes to munitions.
    You have it backwards. It's a huge PVP AOE nerf, and a notable PVE AOE DPS increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naginataka View Post
    Hmm,

    well from the patch notes

    Mild upgrade to bard
    Massive buff to RS
    Minor Nerf to builds that use RS for DPS (loss of 1 GCD per minute of DPS)
    Massive PVP MM nerf (actually not, pretty minor, but lets make people happy and say massive)
    Big arse PVE mm AE nerf with changes to munitions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adnoz View Post
    You have it backwards. It's a huge PVP AOE nerf, and a notable PVE AOE DPS increase.
    and you gain 3gcds a minute since instead of doing 5pt annihilate every min u get to do 1pt annihilate every 30s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
    and you gain 3gcds a minute since instead of doing 5pt annihilate every min u get to do 1pt annihilate every 30s.

    ?

    Normal- build 5, annihilate done for 60 secs
    Now- Build 1, annihilate, done 30 secs, build 1, annihilate done 30 seconds

    Thanks for making me thing about it. We actually are saving time since it only needs 1 pt you get it up 4 GCDs faster at first, then you have to put it back up later for 2 gcds. So net you gain 2 GCDs. And those 4 GCDs you would be building with will have the buff on them.

    Thanks- You make the changes even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naginataka View Post
    Hmm,

    well from the patch notes

    Mild upgrade to bard
    Massive buff to RS
    Minor Nerf to builds that use RS for DPS (loss of 1 GCD per minute of DPS)
    Massive PVP MM nerf (actually not, pretty minor, but lets make people happy and say massive)
    Big arse PVE mm AE nerf with changes to munitions.
    Heh massive buff to Riftstalker, gotta love your enthusiasm.

    There was a slight buff to Riftstalker, but they did make the class alot easier.

    I love that they made it when you port you start with Rift Guard.
    I love that the Dmg portion of Rift Barrier was moved to Rift Guard and its up all the time.
    Deflection will be nice if they change all of the gear thats meant for RS and add deflection in place of parry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naginataka View Post
    ?

    Normal- build 5, annihilate done for 60 secs
    Now- Build 1, annihilate, done 30 secs, build 1, annihilate done 30 seconds

    Thanks for making me thing about it. We actually are saving time since it only needs 1 pt you get it up 4 GCDs faster at first, then you have to put it back up later for 2 gcds. So net you gain 2 GCDs. And those 4 GCDs you would be building with will have the buff on them.

    Thanks- You make the changes even better.
    Not everyone PVP's, and frankly its alot better now that people that play Riftstalker to actually play Riftstalker dont have to worry about a buff rotation.

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    20 point RS PvP specs are getting a wonderful buff. shield, more armor(doesn't mean much, but hey..take a lil less damage) and the AP boost all from a 1pt annihilate.. I kinda like the change for PvP, but for PvE RS tanking they just made us a dull, boring tank spec..
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    Nice upgrade to RS's survivability, but gameplay for tanks degraded to smashing of 2 macroses. Need more abilities if you combine all previous in one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adnoz View Post
    You have it backwards. It's a huge PVP AOE nerf, and a notable PVE AOE DPS increase.
    Forgive me for my ignorance, but I don't see any mention of a PvE MM AoE buff? Electrified Munitions was nerfed. Is there something I'm missing? :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by jereome View Post
    Deflection will be nice if they change all of the gear thats meant for RS and add deflection in place of parry.
    No, keep Parry... Make Deflection = Block, so block gear won't be useless for Rogues. Leather tanking gear would have Deflection.
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    Hoko said in the beginning that when he tested the MM in the PTS that his numbers were lower than on live; I guess it went back up?

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