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    Default Zyzyx's 1.5 Rogue PVE DPS bible

    Rogue dps flowchart

    http://imgur.com/hSTe0.jpeg

    Solo/PA grinding spec(can't kill elites)
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...qzz.V0tkbqgMss

    #show Dusk Strike
    cast Puncture
    cast Dusk Strike
    cast Twilight Force
    cast primal strike
    cast fiery chains
    cast Fiery spike
    cast expose weakness
    cast poison malice

    Finisher
    #show Scourge of Darkness
    cast Scourge of Darkness
    cast Blazing Strike
    cast Flame Thrust

    Weapon enchants Hellfire blades and Leeching poison. Use this spec to lawn mower lvl 50 mobs. Comes with perma stealth, and two self heals on cooldowns for those big pulls. Twilight transcendence and Enduring brew.

    Solo/PA grinding spec (can kill elites) --- mob blender variant
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...bR.g0dAdsM00dz
    #show Puncture
    cast disengage
    cast reprisal
    cast Puncture
    cast Precision Strike
    cast Quick Strike
    cast Keen Strike
    cast Expose Weakness
    cast Blade Tempo

    AOE macro
    #show rift disturbance
    cast reprisal
    cast disengage
    cast rift disturbance
    cast twin strike

    Be sure to blink when you can for more damage or just use it as a convenient way to move to mobs faster as you kill them. Make sure they have 5 combo points on them when they die for the most healing. I use lethal and leeching poison as my weapon enchants. Rift disturbance and deadly strike/twin strike for aoe, using deadly dance when its off cool down for big pulls.


    Ranger Guide
    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...sozu-spec.html

    Nightblade Guide
    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...ide-1-5-a.html

    Blinkblade(rs/sin/bd) Guide
    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...ide-1-5-a.html

    Melee Ranger Guide
    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...4-0-1-5-a.html

    Mandancer (2 button no pet melee build)
    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...ml#post3229900
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...A0soRhbz.x0x0V

    Macros:
    Cp builder,

    #show Precision strike
    cast backstab
    cast Puncture
    cast Precision Strike
    cast quick strike
    cast keen strike
    cast swift shot
    cast expose weakness

    Finisher
    #show Deadly Strike
    cast Deadly strike
    cast Hasted shot

    AOE: Spam twin strike on your main target and finish with deadly strike or finisher macro.

    Keep flash of steel and weapon barrage on hotbar ,and enjoy your two button dps that is actually pretty competitive.



    51 marksman 15 sin last spec you ever need
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...Mcx.EGtRqdAudR
    Note: switch riftstalker to infiltrator for pvp

    Macros:

    Attack
    #show Swift Shot
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Swift Shot
    cast Expose weakness

    Finisher
    #show Rapid Fire Shot
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Bull's Eye
    cast Rapid Fire Shot
    cast Deadeye Shot
    cast Hasted Shot

    AOE
    #show Lightning Fury
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Lightning Fury
    cast Fan Out

    51marksman / 15 ranger guide
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MfN_.EGtRqdAudR.iMsb
    Macro 1:
    #show Quick Shot
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Crippling Shot
    cast Quick Shot

    Macro 2:
    #show Rapid Fire Shot
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rapid Fire Shot
    cast Deadeye Shot

    Shadow Fire ALONE

    Empowered Shot ALONE

    Rotation:

    Shadow Fire-->Macro 1 x 3-->Macro 2 (RFS)

    Strafe--->Head Shot

    Empowered Shot (Instant because of crystal)-->Macro 1 x 3 -->Macro 2 (DES)

    Things to remember:

    STRAFE AFTER STRAFE IS BAD, ITS NOT A DPS GAIN CAUSE ITS A 5 SECOND CAST WHEN YOU NEED 4 SECONDS TO GET 5 COMBOS OTHERWISE, USING THEM IN A ROW IS BAD.

    ALWAYS HEAD SHOT AFTER STRAFE EVERY 47 SECONDS , 42 SECONDS FOR THE COOLDOWN 5 SECONDS THE DURATION--> HEAD SHOT CAUSE THERE IS NO GLOBAL COOLDOWN ANYWAYS, THE REASON YOU ARE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE FROM THE PREVIOUS MM FINISHER YOU HAVE THE INSTANT EMPOWERED SHOT STILL, WHICH HEAD SHOT WONT GIVE YOU, HENCE YOU DONT LOSE MUCH/ANYTHING.

    DO NOT USE SHADOW FIRE INSTANTLY, FINISH THE ROTATION YOU ARE DOING EVEN IF IT COMES BACK, USE IT AFTER TO DO A:

    Shadow Fire-->Empowered Shot-->Macro 1-->Macro 2

    Use the Bull's Eye with Deadeye Shot whenever its up.

    When you use Quick Reload, dont use Strafe instantly so it wont be Strafe-->Strafe, thats a DPS loss, and use HEAD SHOT EVERYTIME AFTER ANY STRAFE TO NOT FALL OUT OF THE ROTATION/TIMERS.

    Its very good to do this at the start:

    5 Combo points-->RFS

    Strafe-->Head Shot

    etc until 14 seconds pass.

    5 Combo-->RFS-->5 combo with Quick Reload used somewhere in there-->RFS-->Strafe-->Head Shot and continue your rotation.


    SAB DANCER:
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...0VRcxcb.VV0G0s

    spikex5 (or spikex4, savage), deadly, puncture, spikex1, det
    blastx5, det

    46 ranged/melee sab
    http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...-test-pts.html


    Rift Soul Calculator
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html
    Rogue DPS BiS item tool
    http://riftupgrade.mathijs.info/roguedps/
    Last edited by Zyzyx; 10-04-2011 at 04:34 PM.

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    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    hm I'll let someone else do a pvp one unless there is demand

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    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    your bad please leave these type of posts to people that know what there talking about and not to people that cry about the slightest nerf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    hm I'll let someone else do a pvp one unless there is demand
    pvp one would go 51MM/anything spam fan out die in 5 seconds when focused on.. spawn and repeat

    honestly its getting old and its only been a week
    Warfronts need segregation of the Tiers. 1-5 and 6-8 or pre-50 pvp will be the most enjoyable PVP in the game.
    Run and Gun My *Boomstick* MM PVP Guide
    The Night Bomber PVP Spec + Rogue PVP Guide Compilation
    Blood and Fire Sin/NB PVP Guide

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanosuke View Post
    pvp one would go 51MM/anything spam fan out die in 5 seconds when focused on.. spawn and repeat

    honestly its getting old and its only been a week
    It's called teamwork!

    Top damage while not actually doing anything to help your team win the match.
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    they need to sticky this
    Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
    Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
    Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.

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    Be nice to see some parsers for these builds... great thread though ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wansumbeats View Post
    Be nice to see some parsers for these builds... great thread though ;)
    what the dummies are for, guides have been made for ppl to try out, posting parses with them doesnt help anything but get them nerfed faster.
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    Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
    they need to sticky this
    all the builds but 1 is yours lol shoulda called this "Hoku's 1.5 Rogue PvE Bible presented by Zyzyx"
    Last edited by sanosuke; 10-04-2011 at 05:47 PM.
    Warfronts need segregation of the Tiers. 1-5 and 6-8 or pre-50 pvp will be the most enjoyable PVP in the game.
    Run and Gun My *Boomstick* MM PVP Guide
    The Night Bomber PVP Spec + Rogue PVP Guide Compilation
    Blood and Fire Sin/NB PVP Guide

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    If other people want to post guide's I will be happy to add them. This is not meant to be a hoko worship page. This is all the relevant guides for 1.5 I could find / make.

    EDIT: credit to potis for the mm/ranger guide and duped for the nb/sin build at the top
    Last edited by Zyzyx; 10-04-2011 at 05:53 PM.

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    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanosuke View Post
    all the builds but 1 is yours lol shoulda called this "Hoku's 1.5 Rogue PvE Bible presented by Zyzyx"
    hush, good guide! 5 stars!
    Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
    Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
    Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.

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    Whats the dps difference between:

    Non Headshot 15rngr build

    Headshot 15rngr build

    15sin build

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    using headshot is a 20-50dps boost, maxing piercing shot and hitting dummy makes up for it, but on an actual raid, headshot pulls ahead since u have armor debuff on raid... 15sin falls behind, requires 20m range for EW
    Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
    Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
    Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
    using headshot is a 20-50dps boost, maxing piercing shot and hitting dummy makes up for it, but on an actual raid, headshot pulls ahead since u have armor debuff on raid... 15sin falls behind, requires 20m range for EW
    I like 15 sin cuz I don't have to worry about keeping up headshot / shadowfire buffs during hk boss fights with a bunch of mechanics to worry about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daglar View Post
    When time allows I'll be looking at the issue with the class guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
    hush, good guide! 5 stars!
    :P or better yet "A Zyzyx Production.... Hoko's Rogue PVE Mastery!"


    and yes might as well sticky this will save people a lot of searching
    Last edited by sanosuke; 10-04-2011 at 06:08 PM.
    Warfronts need segregation of the Tiers. 1-5 and 6-8 or pre-50 pvp will be the most enjoyable PVP in the game.
    Run and Gun My *Boomstick* MM PVP Guide
    The Night Bomber PVP Spec + Rogue PVP Guide Compilation
    Blood and Fire Sin/NB PVP Guide

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