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    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...g0Ro.EcboV0com Was thinking with upcoming Fell Blade changes and whatnot (haven't been to the PTS to see what's changed) but I thought a PvP NB/Bard would be epic. You get big Cadence heals, and a heal debuff. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartzekar View Post
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...g0Ro.EcboV0com Was thinking with upcoming Fell Blade changes and whatnot (haven't been to the PTS to see what's changed) but I thought a PvP NB/Bard would be epic. You get big Cadence heals, and a heal debuff. Thoughts?
    Cadence HPS is really, really low. Is it really worth it to put that much effort into improving Cadence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liang Nuren View Post
    Cadence HPS is really, really low. Is it really worth it to put that much effort into improving Cadence?

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    It's not simply for Cadence heals. It's a support build. Twilight Force Fiery Spike, Dark Malady (awesome buff), and SoD are good for upping the pressure on someone. And Cadence heals are low, but it's good to relieve any DoTs on your team.
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    already use a similar build for pvp, but i think youll be using mostly aoes to spread fell blades, then continuing your normal bard experience.

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    No virtuoso = no thanks.


    If you're going up bard, then Virtuoso is a must.


    Also, Cadence doesn't proc any weapon enchantments. SoD only procs on the first hit iirc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koe View Post
    No virtuoso = no thanks.


    If you're going up bard, then Virtuoso is a must.


    Also, Cadence doesn't proc any weapon enchantments. SoD only procs on the first hit iirc.
    yeah by similar i meant 40 bard 22 nb, or 44 bard 18 nb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koe View Post
    No virtuoso = no thanks.


    If you're going up bard, then Virtuoso is a must.


    Also, Cadence doesn't proc any weapon enchantments. SoD only procs on the first hit iirc.
    Cadence actually does proc weapon buffs like Hellfire Blades. And, ya SoD will only porc once for the initial Cadence tic, not all three.

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    You want Virtuoso in Bard spec. Also the point of a Bard are buffs and heals. I think you are trying to do too much with 1 spec. The survivability and heals will drop a lot. All you want to do with PvP bard is increase CoR as much as you can.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alu View Post
    Cadence actually does proc weapon buffs like Hellfire Blades. And, ya SoD will only porc once for the initial Cadence tic, not all three.
    Since when? Never did proc it. No ability that has "any weapon" procs. Like charges for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qia View Post
    You want Virtuoso in Bard spec. Also the point of a Bard are buffs and heals. I think you are trying to do too much with 1 spec. The survivability and heals will drop a lot. All you want to do with PvP bard is increase CoR as much as you can.



    Since when? Never did proc it. No ability that has "any weapon" procs. Like charges for example.
    Well, I have NB in my bard spec and HB procs all the time. So dunno what else could proc it if not bard skills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alu View Post
    Well, I have NB in my bard spec and HB procs all the time. So dunno what else could proc it if not bard skills?
    Do you have ranger?

    EDIT: I mean I was using NB back in the days and my parses never showed HB. Haven't seen any enchant procs in PvP also (I had infiltrator tree) so I was using cloudy Poison only to "hide" my true buffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qia View Post
    Do you have ranger?
    Ya I do and I just logged him in to see if it was being proc'd by bard skills or just range auto atks, and ya was actually range auto attacks that were procing it and not the bard skills themselves, my bad on that one, never actually looked to see what was procing it, always assumed it was the bard skills.
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