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    Telaran
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    Default 1.5 rogue ranger spec?

    With the recent changes to rogues (especially in MM), is there any chance of a good ranger spec that still is on par with other ones?

    The thing is that i dont want to loose out on a pet (yes i love sozu spec) , as that is basically defines a ranged rogue "hunter", (didnt like sabo at all during all prev patches and wont do it now).
    I REFUSE to go melee, just because 1 spec is a little bit better then 10+ other combinations...

    What i was looking into was a mix of NB with Ranger, but didnt get much success.

    Could anyone have a look into this and see if there is still a good ranger spec that can compete with others on dps?

    Thanks


    Edit: this is all for PvE ofc. I dont give a single f*ck about PvP.
    Last edited by SauS; 09-18-2011 at 03:13 PM.

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    I am still a newbie but looking at the new changes, if you go 51 deep in Ranger, Shadow Fire will buff 50% damage, which is 20% more than the current version.

    Another thing is they buffed Doubleshot. It used to only proc from "auto weapon" damage but in 1.5, I believe most range attacks can trigger one more auto weapon attack. This makes me think that you have more chance to proc Weapon Enchantment stuff? This could be a great buff?

    Both Assassin and Nightstalker have good weapon enchantments.

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    34rng/17sin/15mm, took a 100-150dps hit by losing the armor pen munition but still ok i guess... wtb armor pen munition back pls!
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    Got a detailed post about this spec please?

    Im on PTS and trying to test it out now.

    I presume, seeing the spec didnt change that much in points, the rotation and macro's stay the same?

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    Well after some testing, with what i presume you meant was the spec and rotation (nothing changed from old sozu spec)

    Gear + stats + buffs: (premade with premade gear, to keep testing equal to others, pure selfbuffed nothing more)
    http://i.imgur.com/hbpvo.jpg

    Spec used:
    http://i.imgur.com/k19Au.jpg

    Parse 1-1 with Virulent Poison:
    http://i.imgur.com/aHarZ.png

    Parse 1-2 with Virulent Poison:
    http://i.imgur.com/9P9IV.png

    Pase 2-1 with Electrified Munitions:
    http://i.imgur.com/ANx1B.png

    Pase 2-2 with Electrified Munitions:
    http://i.imgur.com/I5BRC.png



    The spec aint doing that awesome, but not that bad either.
    Tho i have a feeling that we can somewhat refine this spec with some points thrown around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaUS View Post
    Well after some testing, with what i presume you meant was the spec and rotation (nothing changed from old sozu spec)

    Gear + stats + buffs: (premade with premade gear, to keep testing equal to others, pure selfbuffed nothing more)
    http://i.imgur.com/hbpvo.jpg

    Spec used:
    http://i.imgur.com/k19Au.jpg

    Parse 1-1 with Virulent Poison:
    http://i.imgur.com/aHarZ.png

    Parse 1-2 with Virulent Poison:
    http://i.imgur.com/9P9IV.png

    Pase 2-1 with Electrified Munitions:
    http://i.imgur.com/ANx1B.png

    Pase 2-2 with Electrified Munitions:
    http://i.imgur.com/I5BRC.png



    The spec aint doing that awesome, but not that bad either.
    Tho i have a feeling that we can somewhat refine this spec with some points thrown around.
    i modified the spec/rotation but aint posting crap till 1.5 goes live. they screw with my pet spec every freaking patch!
    Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
    Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
    Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.

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    I donno what other people are doing, but ive been testing sozu's spec on the PTS- and with the exact same rotation as on live- just using electrified munitions and lethal poison im parsing 300-400 dps HIGHER than on live with the exact same gear and self buffs. - this is on the dummy btw and not in a raid- so im expecting arround 500dps over all with raid buff scaling.

    I tried a 51pt ranger and it sucks - i was parsing like 1.1k -1.2 dps which was less than sozu's spec. i have no idea why- it felt like the 50% dmg buff from shadow fire was just not working....

    IMHO i think im still gona stick with sozu's spec for raiding when1.5 goes live - our aoe dmg should go up alot with the changes while our single target goes up 20-40% so i dont see any need to try and change the spec up too much.

    (ooh and im in hk/t2raid gear w/ GSB bow and ROS legendary 1h 700ish ap and 880ish crit (~48%crit)

    for people with HK gun or r8 55dps gun ide say they will parse any where from 150-300 dps higher than me due to the damage scaling from the weapon.

    ide like to see if SOZU has any recommended adjustments or if anyone has done extensive testing with this on the PTS to see if there is infact a better rotation or build for ranger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkara View Post
    I donno what other people are doing, but ive been testing sozu's spec on the PTS- and with the exact same rotation as on live- just using electrified munitions and lethal poison im parsing 300-400 dps HIGHER than on live with the exact same gear and self buffs. - this is on the dummy btw and not in a raid- so im expecting arround 500dps over all with raid buff scaling.

    I tried a 51pt ranger and it sucks - i was parsing like 1.1k -1.2 dps which was less than sozu's spec. i have no idea why- it felt like the 50% dmg buff from shadow fire was just not working....

    IMHO i think im still gona stick with sozu's spec for raiding when1.5 goes live - our aoe dmg should go up alot with the changes while our single target goes up 20-40% so i dont see any need to try and change the spec up too much.

    (ooh and im in hk/t2raid gear w/ GSB bow and ROS legendary 1h 700ish ap and 880ish crit (~48%crit)

    for people with HK gun or r8 55dps gun ide say they will parse any where from 150-300 dps higher than me due to the damage scaling from the weapon.

    ide like to see if SOZU has any recommended adjustments or if anyone has done extensive testing with this on the PTS to see if there is infact a better rotation or build for ranger
    I'll post all the updated info on this when all the ranger changes are set in stone, not posting anymore 1.5 guides till changes are final, but i will get all the info out so people can optimize their ranged dps with a pet (i love my pet!)

    i also need to test with 1.5s shadowfire to see if it changes the rotation any, my guess is it just speeds it up instead of changing it since clipping the shadow fire buff by an extra .5 sec is not a big deal.
    Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
    Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
    Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.

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