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    Just curious if there is a good aoe rogue build lol

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    ranger's rain of arrows.

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    Sabdancer. In most cases you will be the top of the parse for AE pulls.

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    < 10 targets, sabdancer
    > 15 targets, rain of arrows starts edging out shrap. Though the only encounter I can think of with -that- many mobs at once would probably be matron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonfireSpam View Post
    < 10 targets, sabdancer
    > 15 targets, rain of arrows starts edging out shrap. Though the only encounter I can think of with -that- many mobs at once would probably be matron.
    Even then, using a spec because you'll parse high but contribute almost nothing the rest of the encounter equals a a bad rogue. The meter will be high, and those adds might be up for 2-3 seconds less but overall your contribution on the other adds and matron is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayi View Post
    Even then, using a spec because you'll parse high but contribute almost nothing the rest of the encounter equals a a bad rogue. The meter will be high, and those adds might be up for 2-3 seconds less but overall your contribution on the other adds and matron is bad.
    Never said it was a good idea. OP simply asked about AoE on rogues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayi View Post
    Even then, using a spec because you'll parse high but contribute almost nothing the rest of the encounter equals a a bad rogue. The meter will be high, and those adds might be up for 2-3 seconds less but overall your contribution on the other adds and matron is bad.
    this statement would be true if ranger couldnt pump out some good single target dps, but since it can, and will do even more in 1.5... basically all rogues should be running a sozu like spec for matron come 1.5. you simply cannot beat 18k dps during the 3 add phases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
    this statement would be true if ranger couldnt pump out some good single target dps, but since it can, and will do even more in 1.5... basically all rogues should be running a sozu like spec for matron come 1.5. you simply cannot beat 18k dps during the 3 add phases.
    Only way this will be viable is if Ranger does more then enough dps to not worry about the add thats always up durring matron. If it is then there wont be much dps on the adds cause there wont be Rogues AEing through the entire fight like there is now.
    Last edited by Vindicit; 09-16-2011 at 11:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindicit View Post
    Only way this will be viable is if Ranger does more then enough dps to not worry about the add thats always up durring matron. If it is then there wont be much dps on the adds cause there wont be Rogues AEing through the entire fight like there is now.
    dunno what start you use but for the stacking phase for us we bring all the adds to the center and they die by cleave with ranged targeting them, during the 2nd part the melee kill the adds on the outside while ranged stay on boss.

    basically rangers become ranged and not melee so they do what ranged do. you are thinking like rogues must be melee since they are rogues... there is nothing wrong with the rogues changing targets when an add spawns and blowing it up in a few seconds... since the adds have to die anyways, them dying this way is not a loss of boss dps, the fight is also trivial as we do enough dps for the melee to never have to run out of melee range before the multi-adds are spawned.
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    If you have to single target when an add is up then its a dps waste which is why Sab will always be better. The add phase wont matter if you hit 10 targets or 30, they all die in 2 seconds and they just artificially inflate your dps.
    Last edited by Vindicit; 09-16-2011 at 11:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindicit View Post
    If you have to single target when an add is up then its a dps waste which is why Sab will always be better. The add phase wont matter if you hit 10 targets or 30, they all die in 2 seconds and they just artificially inflate your dps.
    the only thing that doesnt matter is the easiness of the fight. inflating your dps on aoe is a good thing! makes your epeen bigger and allows you to have parses full of win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayi View Post
    Even then, using a spec because you'll parse high but contribute almost nothing the rest of the encounter equals a a bad rogue. The meter will be high, and those adds might be up for 2-3 seconds less but overall your contribution on the other adds and matron is bad.
    thats nice, but this thread isnt about that

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    If you're talking about the hard version of matron, back near HK release... where her AoE one-shots people and her adds have a good 25% more HP than they have now... there'd be even more reason to use ranger over sabdancer =P Its got travel time. Its nearly instant if she targets melee while ranged have some time to move.

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