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    Default Weapon DPS > Weapon stats?

    I'm using Whisperwood Edge in my main hand. Currently in my off hand I have Seeker's Shiv but I just recently got Truncheon of Darkness for my tanking set, which has a higher weapon DPS than the shiv.

    Is it worth the stat loss to use the truncheon in my off hand over the shiv? From my understanding, things like charges (Sabdancer) use your main hand to calculate the damage, in which case the off hand should be more of a "stat stick" and less about weapon DPS. Is this correct or should I replace the shiv with the truncheon?

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    Offhand is only used for Quick and Precision Strike. I'd go for the weapon stats.

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    The above post is incorrect. OH dps still matters, well for sabdancer anyway. Or so says my spreadsheet anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meladath View Post
    The above post is incorrect. OH dps still matters, well for sabdancer anyway. Or so says my spreadsheet anyway.
    I just tested it.

    test 1: Foul Stinger main hand, Blade of Greater Purpose off hand (both 33.6 DPS)
    test 2: Foul Stinger main hand, white vendorbought dagger off hand (3.9 DPS)
    test 3: Foul Stinger main hand, no off hand.

    test 1: 1026 Spike Charge crit
    test 2: 1017 Spike Charge crit
    test 3: 1017 Spike Charge crit

    The difference in damage is caused by the increase in AP from the offhand.

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    Thats funny, I just tested it and I got 1081 crit with black ice as OH, and 991 crit with a vendor dagger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meladath View Post
    Thats funny, I just tested it and I got 1081 crit with black ice as OH, and 991 crit with a vendor dagger.
    No surprise there, Black Ice adds 37 AP if I'm correct.

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    14, if you count the ap from dex it gives 27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meladath View Post
    14, if you count the ap from dex it gives 27.
    Black Ice
    Bind on pickup
    One Hand Dagger
    Damage per second: 33.6
    42-79 damage every 1.8 sec
    Dexterity +26
    Strength +20
    Endurance +14
    Attack Power +14
    Hit Bonus +37

    That's 14 + 13 (dex) + 10 (str)

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    Oh right, I forgot about strength, derp >.>

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    More testing:

    test 1: Foul Stinger Main Hand, Caster Dagger Off Hand (17.7 DPS, this should be a massive increase if OH DPS matters)
    test 2: Foul Stinger Main Hand, no Off Hand

    test 1: 1017 crit
    test 2: 1017 crit

    /thread

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    Indeed, if you are only talking about spike charge damage, then OH DPS doesnt matter, However I think you are forgetting about auto attack, which while is still a small percentage of your damage, is still dps. Also, in your case OP, then stats ofc. I admit I was wrong.
    Last edited by Meladath; 08-15-2011 at 05:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meladath View Post
    Indeed, if you are only talking about spike charge damage, then OH DPS doesnt matter, However I think you are forgetting about auto attack, which while is still a small percentage of your damage, is still dps. Also, in your case OP, then stats ofc. I admit I was wrong.
    This is true. I'm not able to say anything about the DPS increase on the autotattacks (for me, autoattacks are around 7-8% of total DPS btw). I guess you'll have to parse with both the Trunk and the Shiv.

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    Thanks guys.

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    Nvm, I fail at reading right now.
    Last edited by Cinerus; 08-15-2011 at 05:44 AM.

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