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    Default 51 BD Spec for PvE

    How would you spec the 15 leftover points? Sin? NB? Sin/Ranger?

    Already have SabDancer but want to mess with this.

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    just no, 17sin mandatory for all dps specs.
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    NB would offer the biggest increase for 15 points. I think..
    Last edited by rennlc; 08-13-2011 at 09:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
    just no, 17sin mandatory for all dps specs.
    I know 17 sin is the biggest increase for passive damage BUT since i can't get 17 because of 51 BD i was debating. I could always parse it i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puandro View Post
    I know 17 sin is the biggest increase for passive damage BUT since i can't get 17 because of 51 BD i was debating. I could always parse it i guess.
    Why do you want 51 BD? It's more of a supportive offsoul for melee builds (this isn't me trying to derail you, just asking a question)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskerton View Post
    Why do you want 51 BD? It's more of a supportive offsoul for melee builds (this isn't me trying to derail you, just asking a question)
    I just want to try it because its my fave soul and i want to see how competitive it can be. I know anything past mid 20's is a waste of points for damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puandro View Post
    I just want to try it because its my fave soul and i want to see how competitive it can be. I know anything past mid 20's is a waste of points for damage.
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    BD is no good for PVE as most of your best abilities are reactive, and if you're in a group and actually getting hit in the first place so you can dodge/parry, you're doing something wrong. So most of the treen is garbage and/or filler, the 51point ablity isn't worth the effort, nothing scales with the number of points in the tree, and you're passing up on the best secondary soul to get it.

    Trying new builds is commendable, but deep BD is just a horribly designed soul for PVE purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
    just no, 17sin mandatory for all dps specs.
    all melee dps specs. nb is an identical bonus ranger builds. It won't seem that way on a dummy because of the lack of 10% crit (5% from talents 5% from poison), but I assure you raid buffed there are just less wasted points in NB (WTB Serrated blades Back).

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    sabdancer. learn it. live it. love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geistcreeper View Post
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    what is there to learn?

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    If you're insistent on BD don't go past 40 points for Dualism. It's still some wasted points and well off the min/maxer builds but it won't be the absolute disaster of 51 BD. You also get **** all for AOE.

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    I remember recalling a post sometime before 1.3 which had an idea to make a 51 BD raid build using the Hammerknell synergy crystal.

    The crystal increases your Rhythm actions by 10 seconds, plus the talent by another 6 seconds, effectively giving you:

    Blade Tempo - 31 second duration - 25 second exhaustion
    Blade and Soul Parity - 31 second duration - 35 second exhaustion
    Dualism - 31 second duration - 35 second exhaustion
    Double Coup - 31 second duration - 35 second exhaustion

    so essentially there's only 12 seconds of downtime every 2 minutes where you didn't have a Rhythm actually active.

    Just have to be sure that Blade Tempo isn't the last Rhythm you cast.



    But I can't ever test this because I don't PvE.
    **** you Trion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline View Post
    I remember recalling a post sometime before 1.3 which had an idea to make a 51 BD raid build using the Hammerknell synergy crystal.

    The crystal increases your Rhythm actions by 10 seconds, plus the talent by another 6 seconds, effectively giving you:

    Blade Tempo - 31 second duration - 25 second exhaustion
    Blade and Soul Parity - 31 second duration - 35 second exhaustion
    Dualism - 31 second duration - 35 second exhaustion
    Double Coup - 31 second duration - 35 second exhaustion

    so essentially there's only 12 seconds of downtime every 2 minutes where you didn't have a Rhythm actually active.

    Just have to be sure that Blade Tempo isn't the last Rhythm you cast.



    But I can't ever test this because I don't PvE.
    **** you Trion.
    after much theorycrafting/testing 40bd is the best for the 4pc synergy crystal. i have a build for it but i hate the PTS so until i get the 4pc bonus i wont be posting any parses, it has potential to beat the hoko spec at least at higher gear lvls, and well, sabodancer has it's purpose but i still think DD will get tweaked for it at some point.
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