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    Default Need help on a lvling spec

    Hello
    i just made a rogue ive tried searching the forums for a lvling spec ive found a riftstalker/assassin/NB spec and riftstalker/bladedancer/assa ive tried the assassin one but i seem to kill slow and cant handle many mobs so i whas wondering if you guys could help me with a lvling spec i dont care if its ranged or melee

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    Generally a Ranger/Bard spec for the lower levels works best. The boar can tank mobs for you with ease.
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    22 BD/23 Asin/21 RS

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...z.Vxx0zmu.gc0o

    One of the best soloing specs I've found. It doesn't really come into it's own until about 36-37 when you can get Deadly Dance, Improved Stealth, and Rift Scavenger, but once you get to that point, you pretty much have zero downtime. Lots of tools, nice damage, lots of survivability.

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    so i should be useing a bard/ranger spec til around 30+ and then go BD/rift? then my question is could anyone link a ranger/bard spec for lvl27

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundances View Post
    so i should be useing a bard/ranger spec til around 30+ and then go BD/rift? then my question is could anyone link a ranger/bard spec for lvl27
    Something like
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MNcM.VMRfzckRz.Vc.0c Ranger (25) / Bard (8) / Assassin (3)
    Last edited by Arrys; 07-18-2011 at 08:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundances View Post
    so i should be useing a bard/ranger spec til around 30+ and then go BD/rift? then my question is could anyone link a ranger/bard spec for lvl27
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MNci.g.Eczo0qR.V
    this is pretty close to what i used

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    This is my solo spec:
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...z.V0x0h.Vcxh0o

    I put my first 10 points into BD so you get Twin Strike, Reprisal, and Compound Attack, then the next 13 into RS, to get 3/3 Rift Scavenger. You get this far at level 18, which is when self-healing starts to become more necessary. This one stupid ability does more for solo melee builds than anything else I've tried.

    Early on I used Marksman as my no-point tree, even though I switched to Nightblade later. I tried Ranger for the pet, and it's nice because it does tank, but you lose out on your on-dodge abilities and the pet can be a hassle. Marksman is nice because Swift Shot helps you kite a little, Most things got to me with 5 points on them already.

    After this, get BD to 32, make sure to pick up Deadly Dance, Combat Culmination, and Vivacity first among other choices. At 32 you have everything in the final build except one point in maybe Ambidextrous and 3 points in Blade Hustle. You're now level 34.

    For a 3rd tree, Only Nightblade and Assassination made sense. Both have stealth. Here's a comparison:

    ASN: 5% crit, crit = bleed, 4% damage, 2 poison enchants, expose weakness, improved stealth, incapacitate.
    NB: 15% damage to combos and finishers, fire enchant, ranged opener from stealth, ranged incapacitate, opener adds 20% damage for 8 seconds, a spammable AOE attack.

    There's no bad choice, and you can move around a point here or there if you want to fine tune it. I'm not sure for example if Fire And Death Attunement is a better option than Melted Skin. Both are passive. Silent Footsteps is a huge quality of life bonus, but I find I don't need stealth all that much. Taking a point out of Great Fortitude so you can put it into the NB tree to pick up Dusk Strike is another option.

    The other nice thing with this build is mobility and choices for how you open. You can stealth and use Dark Malady, or charge in with Flash of Steel. You have 2 planar shifts in RB with separate cooldowns and you get a 15% damage for a time after (and you can move points from tier 2 to Ruthless Stalker if you want for even more damage). Actually because of this, Dark Malady isn't as big of a deal. You can also put those 3 points from RB tier 2 into Rift Barrier, it's hard to say which is ultimately better.

    It's up to you whether you want to fill out NB first or get Shadow Assault and Stalker Phase. I would put 5 points into NB first for 15% combos and stealth. you don't need stealth to function, but it's nice for getting around more easily.

    You should macro Reprisal into your attacks.

    Single target combo builder will look like this:
    #show Keen Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Reprisal
    cast Disengage
    cast Precision Strike
    cast Quick Strike
    cast Keen Strike

    If you pick up Dusk Strike, add that below Disengage.

    Don't macro in Weapon Barrage. It's cheap non-GCD damage but it's also your only interrupt and it's worth micro-managing.

    Your finisher is Deadly Strike, but you'll notice you have access to some others, that buff armor, dodge, crit, or AP. You can't macro these since they don't have cooldowns, but the only one I really try and work in is False Blade. The 11% damage reduction is worth it.

    For AOE, I don't know if Twin Strike is more damage than Weapon Flare, if not there's not much reason to ever use it, I haven't run the numbers. But for a long time you won't have Weapon Flare. Just make sure when you multi-pull to let things die with 3-5 points on them, for that heal.

    One trick for AOE is to use Deadly Strike every 3 points. This maximizes your combo builder damage at the cost of whatever a 5 point Compound Attack gets you, which is usually dead things you didn't have points on and aren't healing you. Harder hitting builder abilities are better because things die with points on them.

    Hope that helps, and gives you some options.

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    Here's an alternative that gives up some of the plane shifting from RB to get Dusk Strike, Mass Subdue, and Combat Efficiency. You should be fine alternating between FoS and Dark Malady to open, but you do lose a little mobility to gain some passive damage.
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...Gdz.V0t0h.Vcbh
    Last edited by dbe; 07-18-2011 at 11:04 AM.

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    If i were to level a rogue again i would do something like this:

    level 4: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MpVM.z.m
    level 13: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MpVM.V0xh.m
    level 20: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MpVM.V0xh.Vbdh
    level 30: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0MpVM.V0xh.VbdGzsMR0b
    on 33 i might respec and go: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...h.Vbdh.0VMcx0b
    then on 36: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...o.Vbdu.0VMcx0b
    Going back up the bladedancer tree and finishing the riftstalker tree last.

    this is what my level 50 spec would look like: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...zsMR0b.0VMcx0b

    It might be a bit tedious until you get to level 13, but its just getting better and better from there.


    Macro:

    #show Precision Strike
    cast Precision Strike
    cast Quick Strike
    cast Keen Strike
    cast Reprisal
    cast Weapon Barrage

    Remove all skills you don't have yet obviously.
    Use poisons.
    Spam Twin Strike if you get more than 1 mob.

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    I really recommend assassin for any type of leveling build. It's slow.. but stealth can get you into quest areas without having to deal with trash mobs along the way. I can't count the number of quests that had me killing some specific guy.. and I'd just stealth up.. walk up to him.. blow all my cd's.. and get out of there (slip away if anyone else saw me).

    Also, all these 'optimized' builds are great and all.. but honestly I don't think you'll need to have the best dps or hp etc. I'd lean more towards minimizing your traveling time, or chances of dying.. (slip away!)

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    you really need 13 points in riftstalker or you will spend a lot of time drinking and being bored as melee. rift scavenger is awesome. Bladedancer goes nicely with that because you dont really need much points in it to be effective. And it has a decent AoE. I suppose pairing it with nightblade or assassin is viable too, but the good stuff in those souls are mainly on higher levels.

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