Do they cut it - jump back - knock back - run fast - pin target ( breaks on dmg) - pretty underwhelming imo and i have yet to save my butt in wfs with any of them - out in the world yes they are handy but in wf they are near useless - i know that there other and vastly superior abilities in other souls but some are so high in the melee trees that if you took them you may as well go all the way and play a melee rogue - im nervous about saying this cos i know the forum vultures are circling and just waiting to insult and humiliate me but im starting to feel that MM dps is too low given how squishy MM are and how inneffective the souls "survivabilty" tools are -