Sabdancer is just a bit more faceroll than your spec, yes you can have 1-2 macros, but the fact remains, some fights need the pet to be controlled, others require a bit smarter play with Deadly Strike + Trick Shot etc etc etc making it "annoying" for those fights..Doesnt mean it CANT be played there.
I can pull 2.1k with Sabdancer with the fang of the life lord..Could it be more with the melee ranger? Maybe, adding weeping edge and perfect situation where i dont have to stop dps at 50% or my melee uptime fails a bit cause the tank moved faster/more than usual i could be CLOSE to 2.2k i guess but that doesnt matter.
Both specs are equally strong right now and thats the point.
Only reason i truly prefer the sabo spec(s) and wont change it..even my secondary spec is 44 sabo is simply because its this:
A huge faceroll ;D
I am a raid leader, i am used to babysit my raid and call out stuff repeatedly to avoid failures because someone talked to their wife or looked at the television and other similar stuff.
The facerollness that the sabo specs provide cant be beaten by any spec and they can pull close/as high dps.
As example, i can easily use Sabdancer on Herald and pull an insane number.. or your spec to ST him, but i prefer 44 sabo there..Why? Firstly..Incriminate + bombs as they appear = pure win..I make sure that silence is down when adds move to make sure some warrior didnt fail, i also stun the adds at around ~10% and if the dps is high they die without exploding and another similar stuff, making sure there wont be a wipe as a good babysitter ;O,
Your spec is awesome but Sabo is too much of a faceroll to give up in most cases and thats the only reason not to play the melee ranger.
Its whatever someone wants to play as long as they arent being carried or useless to their raid really ;o
You love the melee ranger idea? Awesome..Play it 24/7!
You love the 31/18/17 ? Awesome, you wont pull 2.1k and above but you will be around 1.9k or so.
Its how obsessed people are xD
Last edited by potis; 07-21-2011 at 08:23 AM.
Can you start filtering out shocking cipher dear rogues please, its not hard I will show you how if your using ACT.
Its bothering me to read all these 2K dps reports when infact shocking cipher is around 200-500 dps added on.
So in ACT head to options > find data correction > find ability redirrect > type in Shocking Cipher , next box type in Plutonus the Immortal (make it any type) thats it.
Next time you kill him check the dps instead of all these 1900 dps you will see the true dps 1600-1700. Sadly I got beaten by a mage this week with his filtered 1639 dps! Last week only pulled 1530 with x2 T2 daggers, this week with foul stinger 1565 (pet didn't get buffed tho)
I mean ..Sigh!
With the cipher added it would be reporting 2.5k not 2.1k.
Just becasue you cant/dont have the gear to do it, doesnt mean others cant.
Last edited by potis; 07-21-2011 at 09:08 AM.
Last edited by Ultrashock34; 07-21-2011 at 02:47 PM.
Rage of Dragons (Dayblind - PvP)
Formerly Leaf/Faze on Reclaimer.
Leafe - 50 Rogue
Phraze - 50 Cleric
Hopefully that was our last kill, but if we do have 1 more whirl at him our rogue will break 2.2K.
The one rogue who was at 2164 has the FotLL, Verdant Bow, rank 6 necklace, Shining Darkness ring, R5 ring, codex trinket, as well as full durnes gear to give you a picture of what he is working with.
Last edited by Tigruz; 07-24-2011 at 01:18 AM.
I tried your build but never got more then ~1400.
What rotation do you use? Mind if I ask (too) for..?
Macros etc. would be interesting as well.
Raiding Rogue Melle Build
Sab / BD - Solid AOE and Single Target
Melle sab is a great versatile build, will produce nice dps in most situations, the rotation is nice and easy, and the play style is great.
http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...0VRcxcb.VV0G0s (thanks Seyon)
/cast @focustarget Incriminate
1. Spike Charge
2. Shrapnel Charge
3. Deadly Strike
6. Incriminate Macro
7. Weapon Barrage
1. Embers Charge
2. Fragmentation Bomb
3. Chemical Bomb
4. Blade Tempo
4. Side Steps
Rotations and Playstyle
Firstly Blade Tempo should be utilised when it can be benefited the most, often you will use when ever off CD however i have not made it apart of normal rotation.
Open with 5x Spike Charges, Often pre Engaging, Be careful not to pull aggro from tank, may be a good time to use Incriminate macro also.
Boss will have 5 Combo Points and 5 Charges on it pre battle.
New 1.3 Rotation from Dinadass:
Preload 5x Spike Charges
Then Deadly Strike, Puncture, Spike Charge, Detonate
Then repeat this:
5x Shrapnel Charge, Detonate
3x Spike Charge, Puncture, Deadly Strike, 2x Spike Charge, Detonate
5x Shrapnel Charge, Detonate
3x Shrap Charge, Puncture, Deadly Strike, 2x Shrap Charge, Detonate
Key points to Keep in mind
Incriminate is very powerful and should be used to help tanks on some encounters, and as a general rule to help tanks when you first engage.
Use Blade Tempo on Opening and when ever off cool down
Bombs + Incriminate can help tanks pickup loose adds
Side Steps if you get aggro, keep in mind this will give you exhaustion and will prevent you from using Blade Tempo till its off.
Downfalls of this build over Ranged Sabo Build
No silence, in a few fights Carpet Bombing + Silence is required
The obvious downfalls of Melee apposed to Ranged
This is covered more in BiS gear Lists, however as a general Rule
Highest Melle DPS Daggers
Saga of Endless Bow for stats
Sidenote- You can remove the +hit from talents and put into Quick Reflexes if over hit cap, but may not be worth it.
Hit 1750 on old pluto the other night which i was very happy about but i wondered if someone could add sum input regarding my sigil.
Would a combo of Greater Essences from the inscribed sourcestone vendor: Tactical Soulstone (+73 to backstab) and Ambidextrous Soulstone (+30 to Quick Strike) make my dps skyrocket or would it be better to slot 6 lessers or choose just 1 greater and if so which one?
2 inscribed sourcestones greaters sounds sick but is it actually?