my new rotation has not been posted, some others have been posted, i think one is on page 16 where someone got 20-30 more dps out of this build. i have not changed my build at all but do have new macros to test hopefully tonight if we do RoS, plan a full new writeup with results if all goes well.Originally Posted by KazMike
Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.
Just out of curiosity, have you found a way to make a 2-macro build that makes sure backstab, precision strike and puncture utilize the deadly dance buff while also having backstab in both macros? I couldn't figure it out so if you find a way that would be fantastic.
Looking forward to the new writeup.
no, im failing on the 2 macro, oddly in an actual raid situation the 1 button is doing more dps even tho i clip and use 2cp abilities at 4cps...
i honestly cannot add too much more to the guide except use poison malice in a macro.
Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.
I'm having a bit of a problem, when I macro my Precision Strike, it is being used only once, at the beginning during whole combat because of the higher energy cost of it... How come you can cast it more than once?
Is not bad for pvp. No defenses but you can charge to carriers, slow their speed, finishers at mele and ranged, enought burst for 1vs1.
Not for all situations, you must play like a champwarrior but i like it.
(sorry for my bad english)
living energy or fervor. i do not use this build without those as i only raid and thus always have full raid buffs.I'm having a bit of a problem, when I macro my Precision Strike, it is being used only once, at the beginning during whole combat because of the higher energy cost of it... How come you can cast it more than once?
if im doing something else i play sab because it does not matter what buffs you have.
Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.
Quck question how come you dont put point into perma stealth?
Last edited by McBadBat; 07-06-2011 at 10:06 AM.
cause i dont pvp, that's the easiest answer. in pve perma stealth has 0 usage, i have other specs with it for running around and for ganking ppl but in a warfront you have to play this build like a champion, you have a pet so stealth does you no good.
Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.
Would you be kind enough to give me a good pvp spec if you could?
if you are rank 0-2 then i either suggest a 44sab 20sin build and stay at range or going 34sin 32nb and take fell blades and play like an assassin. i personally do not have a pvp guide, but once you get rank 3-4 some other things open up for you with infiltrator so it all just depends on your playstyle and pvp rank.
maybe some R6 rogues can help? i know guides are all over but most of them have 12-15 infiltrator and those may not help you much.
Useful Rogue guides since I don't want to answer 50 billion questions anymore:
Marksman, Ranger, Nightblade, Blink'Blade, Asstalker, Assdancer, and finally The Hoko Spec™
Hoko, teaching noobs the way of rogue pve until 12/20/11.
New to this thread and build, but I was looking at it, and isn't "Opportunity" sort of a waste? 3 points to get an extra combo point on a finisher seems wasteful. I know it has to be put somewhere in the tree to get the next tier, but certainly it could be elsewhere? Sort of messes up a finisher macro with head shot in it since every time you shoot, you add another combo so head shot can fire indefinitely and also mess up the 60 second buff with a 1 combo point, shorter version.
To McBadBat's original question:
Tbh if you're rank 0-2 you're best off either playing a battlebard spec [bard/rs] and being a buffbot (Extended survivability with the RS mitigation and health augment) or playing something like MM/asn(44/22) or MM/nb or even 44sab like Hoko suggested.
Essentially you're not going to be hitting that hard at this stage but with sab you can lay down some aoe pressure and keep people off points; generally just being a real pita. Although, sab is pretty brutal 1v1 and you'll probably find yourself getting singled out and stomped once they find out you're squishtastic.
Bard is decent because you don't have to worry about much other than jumping around keeping motif's up and spaming your little lute.
As stated previously once you're R4 you can start using builds that do a lot better due to the 15INF; like 51asn/15inf, 44mm/15inf/7asn and the other cookie cutters.
Hope this helps a bit.
Last edited by Biggss; 07-18-2011 at 03:03 PM.
Maako whats up... Actually the oppurtunity is useful for rebuilding the combo points for ur next finisher. You spam the one button. Then turn around and throw finisher. Then R&R. Very simpler rotation. Just kinda useless anywhere but in raids.
Embersidhe - Threesprings {Defiant}
<Tango Down>
This specc has to be quite far behind the sabodancer specc I'm using. I just pulled off 1990 dps on Plutonus. Will post parser here later when my mate uploads it on our forums. Did just install ACT myself so that includes Shocking Cipher since I didn't know how to remove that :/
I know people have always said that Hoko's is easy and not better then SaboDancer but I think people don't understand how much of a difference it is. Haven't tried playing Hoko's for a while but people say it requires tons of gear. I imagine the difference between these speccs to be around 10%+ and that is a huge difference if you like to min/max. But if you like an easy specc that is still melee though go for Hoko's! Me myself hate pets more then anything though.
We didn't use banner or legendary philter of power. Just all the raidbuffs along with 2 x +12whetstones , cupcake, elder tablet, poisonous coating(Ordinary stuff).
Specc: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...0VRcxcb.VV0I0R
Probably well-known specc but some people tend to go for 3/3 combat effiecency and lose out on 3% dex(which is not needed if you use a tablet) and use 5/5 improved detonate which is less dps then 4/5 and use one in Charge Booster. That last part is only like a 9-15 dps increase atm for me though but still an increase.
My gear is:
t3helm
marauders shoulders
****ty t2 dungeon chest Energized tunic
Razorthorn Belt
Trousers of Craving (GP i think)
rank 5 boots, gloves and both rings
Codex trinket
Runebound Necklace
Full AP sigil and Mortuous Shadeshard as the only greater
My weapons is Stiletto of the Serpent(33.6dps) Blade of the Architect(29.2dps) and Gilded Greatbow of the Mountain.
If that gear can pull off over 2k dps with a banner, imagine what the specc could do with 2 relicdaggers(weeping procc alone getting over 2050dps). My guess would be at least 2200dps, and even more so with more t3 parts since my chest is ridicilously bad and shoulders/legs is a good bit below wanted level of gear. But after seeing 30+ relics (few of our clerics have 3 relics each even for freaking offspecs) and not a single dagger I'm starting to wonder if there will ever be one before HK is on farm.
Screenshot of the parser. Didn't get to edit last post in time
http://s486.photobucket.com/albums/r...sSupremacy.jpg
It's done with dual skillbreakdown cause a guildie wanted to check what the difference was and how he ended up that much below me.
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