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    Default Some Parses of Melee Sab vs BD/Sin/NB and Rnager Hybrid

    Just parsed the Sab/BD/Sin build against the Rang/MM/Sin and BD/Sin/NB.

    I don't understand how people are saying that the melee Sab is so great when both the BD/Sin/NB and Hybrid Ranger build beat it on the Boss dummy parse. Can it be that Spotter's Order in a Raid increases the Sab DOTs like for the Bane Rune?

    I used the following rotation but couldn't hold the dps higher than around 850 dps on the Boss Dummy. I have T2 daggers with mostly T2 gear except where I replaced my T2 shoulders and legs with the P6 PvP gear since they have better stats and my hit is already maxed at 231. It's interesting that the best parse for me is the Hybrid Ranger build but the parse was a little over 3 minutes and I went to around 5 minutes with the other parses. It usually doesn't change much from 3 to 5 minutes, maybe at the most a change of 50 dps, but I don't want to do it over again since I'm going to sleep now.

    Rotation:
    5x Spike -> Deadly Strike -> Puncture -> Blade Tempo -> Detonate
    5x Shrapnel -> Detonate
    5x Spike -> Deadly Strike -> Puncture -> Detonate
    5x Shrapnel -> Detonate

    Melee Sab - 845 dps

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...cEb0o0o.A0bG0R

    Parse

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/sab060711.jpg/


    BD/Sin/NB - 938 dps

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...osoo0b.VhxzhoM

    Parse

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...cer060711.jpg/

    Rang/MM/Sin - 947 dps

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...**sk0z.0VMcx0b

    Parse

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...ger060711.jpg/

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    Spike Charge was at an average of 900 damage and only 268dps? that's only 1 tick every 3.5sec, which means u kinda ****ed up the rotation or parsed wrong somehow.

    Spike Charge should be sitting at a 100% (or close to) uptime and with an average of about 900, it should be something around 400ish dps.

    I don't know ur equip, but my spike charge hits and for 900-1k non-crit and 1,7k crits selfbuffed. And is close to 550ish dps itself on a dummy.

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    Don't over complicate sab.
    44sab/20sin(poison potency)/2nb
    5spike detonate
    5shrap detonate
    repeat.
    Retired due to lack of PVP content and boring/repetitive game mechanics.

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    Depends what your weapons are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindicit View Post
    Depends what your weapons are.
    No, not really.

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    http://s7.directupload.net/images/110608/42quu6pb.png

    selfbuffed with 2x +9 dmg stones...

    Looks like you messed up your rotation (or just undergeared)
    Last edited by TheRealVash; 06-08-2011 at 12:47 AM.

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    [QUOTE=TheRealVash;2568922]http://s7.directupload.net/images/110608/42quu6pb.png

    selfbuffed with 2x +9 dmg stones...

    Looks like you messed up your rotation[/QUOTE

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    Last edited by Bloodwave; 06-08-2011 at 12:49 AM.

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    hmm, i thought it was better to put the last 2 points in ranger to keep your ranged wep out. not only auto attacking but using the ranged wep for abilities that use "weapon damage", like all of our charges.

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    Hey guys, let's keep using parse examples with random weaponstone enchants. So far we've got no enchants, and +18. Can we get a +21 and +24 so we get more useless numbers?

    Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmv View Post
    Don't over complicate sab.
    44sab/20sin(poison potency)/2nb
    5spike detonate
    5shrap detonate
    repeat.
    We've got a winner Cept go Ranger as 2 instead
    Last edited by Vitto; 06-08-2011 at 06:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Hey guys, let's keep using parse examples with random weaponstone enchants. So far we've got no enchants, and +18. Can we get a +21 and +24 so we get more useless numbers?

    Anyone?
    Reparsed it without weaponstones: 1106 dps over 3:30

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmv View Post
    Don't over complicate sab.
    44sab/20sin(poison potency)/2nb
    5spike detonate
    5shrap detonate
    repeat.
    except deadly dance melee sab does better dmg. So the "over complicated" spec/rotation is better and should be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyth View Post
    except deadly dance melee sab does better dmg. So the "over complicated" spec/rotation is better and should be used.

    Please post two parses directly comparing the two specs & rotations, because when I parsed them both, standard sab (from range) was stronger dps than melee sab with deadly dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moui View Post
    Please post two parses directly comparing the two specs & rotations, because when I parsed them both, standard sab (from range) was stronger dps than melee sab with deadly dance.
    Maybe with a relic bow and green daggers. I'll do a few parses in a bit for you.

    OP, I think you did something wrong. I averaged about 950 dps with a t2 mainhand with the Sab/BD build, which is pretty similar to the other melee builds.

    People keep posting about Sab/BD thinking it blows away every other spec in single target DPS, when it doesn't. It does similar sustained single target DPS to melee ranger and the good BD/sin/NB builds. Sab/BD's strength is that it can maintain its dps better on fights with mechanics that force you out of melee range and that it totally obliterates every other build in aoe situations. With those two things in mind, I think it is our best performing spec for every raid fight in the game currently, except Plutonus or maybe Anrak if you dont have space to be in melee range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinadass View Post
    People keep posting about Sab/BD thinking it blows away every other spec in single target DPS, when it doesn't. It does similar sustained single target DPS to melee ranger and the good BD/sin/NB builds. Sab/BD's strength is that it can maintain its dps better on fights with mechanics that force you out of melee range and that it totally obliterates every other build in aoe situations. With those two things in mind, I think it is our best performing spec for every raid fight in the game currently, except Plutonus or maybe Anrak if you dont have space to be in melee range.
    Couldn't agree more .

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