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    Ok so, long story short, guildy asks me the importance of weapon speed. I told him how in Everquest 2 it meant the world because of our autoattacks, but didnt think it's nearly as important in Rift.

    Did I tell him wrong? If I did can anyone point to an ACT parse (not RJ) that confirms there is a difference?

    I'm still using that 2.4 second 29 dps axe out of eAP. Should I swap it out for a 1.8? If your answer is yes, please explain why.

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    Normalized ability damage.
    Non Normalized proc chance.

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    I've always stuck with daggers, in most cases faster weapon means more procs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabbit View Post
    Ok so, long story short, guildy asks me the importance of weapon speed. I told him how in Everquest 2 it meant the world because of our autoattacks, but didnt think it's nearly as important in Rift.

    Did I tell him wrong? If I did can anyone point to an ACT parse (not RJ) that confirms there is a difference?

    I'm still using that 2.4 second 29 dps axe out of eAP. Should I swap it out for a 1.8? If your answer is yes, please explain why.

    Noobs and trolls go away. Seriously asking a question here and dont want speculation.
    I don't have a parse, but I think it was during the beta that the devs normalized abilities so that weapon speed wasn't really a factor in determining damage. AP scales to dps as well (instead of a flat damage bonus). I won't make any absolute claims one way or the other but as far as I know, weapon speed doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Licentia View Post
    I don't have a parse, but I think it was during the beta that the devs normalized abilities so that weapon speed wasn't really a factor in determining damage. AP scales to dps as well (instead of a flat damage bonus). I won't make any absolute claims one way or the other but as far as I know, weapon speed doesn't matter.
    Well how the hell was I supposed to know that? What crap. I've been losing out on poison proc's all this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosros View Post
    Well how the hell was I supposed to know that? What crap. I've been losing out on poison proc's all this time.
    not a huge amount of them mind

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    This is exactly what I was looking for. Do 99% of the rogues worldwide have any idea WHY they use daggers? Thank you guys for the information.
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    THIS IS DONE WITH VERY LIMITED TESTING


    I wouldn't get too upset about poison, or any other type of procs, vs weapon speed. As I think there's a CD for when these effects Proc. I have done some, very limited, I admit, testing and checking on these procs and I've never seen them go off together or near together with weapon attacks. Usually there's a number of weapon attacks before I got another proc.

    As stated above, I've only done limited testing on this. So I could have just had the evil random number generator made at me when testing this. Hopefully, some one else can confirm or deny if there is a CD between weapon procs (poison) and if so, how long they are.

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    1. Highest DPS weapon you can find and can use in the respective slot*.
    2. Stats on weapon.
    3. Speed of weapon (affects proc rate).

    Offhand, switch 1 and 2. You'll find 99% of the time though, it doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mavik View Post
    As stated above, I've only done limited testing on this. So I could have just had the evil random number generator made at me when testing this. Hopefully, some one else can confirm or deny if there is a CD between weapon procs (poison) and if so, how long they are.
    I don't think anyone knows except the Devs. We all know it exists because we've never seen back-to-back-to-back poison procs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xsi View Post
    1. Highest DPS weapon you can find and can use in the respective slot*.
    2. Stats on weapon.
    3. Speed of weapon (affects proc rate).

    Offhand, switch 1 and 2. You'll find 99% of the time though, it doesn't matter.
    Is it going to matter if I have a 1.8 in main hand and 2.4 in off hand? Would love the hear a dev clear this up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabbit View Post
    Is it going to matter if I have a 1.8 in main hand and 2.4 in off hand? Would love the hear a dev clear this up.
    Yeah, a dev really needs to tell us how that works. Typically your attack speed would slow down to your slowest weapon attack speed. So if you have a 1.8 and a 2.4, all of your attacks would be 2.4. I'm not sure if it works that way here though.

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    as a NB (both weapon enhancement's proc is important ) it made a decent diffrence. as a BD it didnt show a huge diffrence in my test (still had like 98% uptime with melted whatever 1/2). all and all, if both are equal dps you want a faster weapon over a slower one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabbit View Post
    This is exactly what I was looking for. Do 99% of the rogues worldwide have any idea WHY they use daggers? Thank you guys for the information.
    because they tend to have the best stats for rogues! :P

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    Are you guys kidding? Speed does matter... 2.4 weapon in offhand proc at least 20% less then 1.8 weapon... and MH about 10% less.....

    simple 15-20 min parsing does wonders
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