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    Default How are specs ranking dpswise?

    I'm looking into a couple raiding specs for when i hit 50 on my rogue and I like a lot of the builds I see here but does anyone have any data on what's been most effective thus far?

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    Yes, its all over the rogue forum. Just do some digging like most people.

    Even I have been digging up nuggets of parced goodness.
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    The top melee dps specs are not on the forum. I've looked.
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    Top melee DPS is still melee ranger/sin, top without pet is still nightblade/sin/ranger. Parsing 890 selfbuffed with T2 gear and weapons using the latter.

    Top ranged DPS is the same ranger/sin/marks spec, but with a different rotation. Parsing 890 as well using that (incl pet).

    I have not been able to find any higher, but if you do, feel free to suggest them to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nand chan View Post
    Top melee DPS is still melee ranger/sin, top without pet is still nightblade/sin/ranger. Parsing 890 selfbuffed with T2 gear and weapons using the latter.

    Top ranged DPS is the same ranger/sin/marks spec, but with a different rotation. Parsing 890 as well using that (incl pet).

    I have not been able to find any higher, but if you do, feel free to suggest them to me.
    32sin/20bd/14nb parses much higher than the nb spec. I've also never seen the melee ranger spec beat it on the PTR where all gear is equal. 1283 dps with 32sin/20bd/14 nb on PTR in full raid gear. 1076 on Live with greenscale relic dagger, plutonus pants, rest t2/raid rift gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by `xell View Post
    32sin/20bd/14nb parses much higher than the nb spec. I've also never seen the melee ranger spec beat it on the PTR where all gear is equal. 1283 dps with 32sin/20bd/14 nb on PTR in full raid gear. 1076 on Live with greenscale relic dagger, plutonus pants, rest t2/raid rift gear.
    I'll try it out sooner or later. I was using 3x bd / 18 sin / 1x nb, but I haven't tried your route yet. I haven't actually checked the melee ranger spec, but in my experience the margin has been quit noticeable, at least unbuffed.
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    High nb specs are better to be avoided. They belong to the past. 890 selfbuffed with t2 on a nightblade based spec sounds a lie tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrah View Post
    High nb specs are better to be avoided. They belong to the past. 890 selfbuffed with t2 on a nightblade based spec sounds a lie tbh.
    i'll try to upload a parse when i get home from work. i dont have ANY gear from raiding (T3) pre patch i was around 790 dps with nb/sin/rng and post patch im around 850-870. nothing about us (to my knoweldge) got nerfed, however, my gear all became much, much better due to T2 gear buffs. im not 890 but it isnt unbelieveable at all that nand is a better player/more optomized than i.

    it dosnt seem at all to me like BD, ranger and sin were brought up to replace the NB spec, more like they were brought up to become viable alternatives. im considering trying the BD build myself though.
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    nand chan the melee ranger spec which i made is not anymore the best melee ranger with BD stuffed into is best. parsing 1700 to dummy with archon+bard+Bm, prolly gonna go up to 1800-2000 on plutonus gg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seyon View Post
    i'll try to upload a parse when i get home from work. i dont have ANY gear from raiding (T3) pre patch i was around 790 dps with nb/sin/rng and post patch im around 850-870. nothing about us (to my knoweldge) got nerfed, however, my gear all became much, much better due to T2 gear buffs. im not 890 but it isnt unbelieveable at all that nand is a better player/more optomized than i.

    it dosnt seem at all to me like BD, ranger and sin were brought up to replace the NB spec, more like they were brought up to become viable alternatives. im considering trying the BD build myself though.
    790 sounds normal. 890 does not. There is no way the gear buff will make a 100dps upgrade. After all the most important thing (weapon dps) remained inchanged from the t2 gear.

    Ofcourse I might be wrong. just speculating.
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    im diong the most it seems with melee ranger, swapping nb for bd makes a difference im finding. parsed 1200 on duke without aoe (our raid just blows him up) and that was in full t2 with t2 daggers.

    cant wait to see what plutonis is like, died on infiltrator so no good parse there fkn hate that fight! and died on hylas so nothing there either. spore duty on oracle so lame as well...
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    30 bd 22 sin 14 nb for melee (1080 with whets at dummy)
    31 rg 18 mm 17 sin for rg so far. (1000 at dummy (whet still affects the bow? guess yes)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrah View Post
    790 sounds normal. 890 does not. There is no way the gear buff will make a 100dps upgrade. After all the most important thing (weapon dps) remained inchanged from the t2 gear.

    Ofcourse I might be wrong. just speculating.
    It's true. I was doing about 790 pre-patch and 890 post-patch. Also, ranger was doing 720 pre-patch and 890 post-patch. Same bow, same weapons.

    Swapped out some gear though, like swapping all of the useless tier 2 drops for the now-buffed plaque gear, which made a further difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nand chan View Post
    It's true. I was doing about 790 pre-patch and 890 post-patch. Also, ranger was doing 720 pre-patch and 890 post-patch. Same bow, same weapons.

    Swapped out some gear though, like swapping all of the useless tier 2 drops for the now-buffed plaque gear, which made a further difference.
    Ranger was changed which accounts for the dps boost. For the NB spec it's gotten a boost, but only because T2 or T3 gear was boosted. I gained something like 70 crit and a bucketload of dex from the gear changes.

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    Everyone has different gear and conditions.

    The best conditions to compare all numbers is in PTR with T3 raid gears from the PTR vendors since that is what everyone has been using as of late and the numbers comparisons are much closer. In live, we have people saying they are T2 gears, but actually using T3 weapons. bleh... so inaccurate. Some parsed for 1000 and some 800 for same build. I can never seem to produce thus BIG inflated numbers. Then when few of the builds are tested in PTR T3, I was able to produce fairly close numbers.

    So far, I have seen and tested -- the best is the 32Sin/BD/NB. 32BD comes real close though. I find any NB still ok, but behind Sin and BD still. Probably only useful for some bosses that require healing debuff like in DSM or DD -- then again, T2 is almost pointless to do now ... zzz
    Last edited by Xrande; 05-12-2011 at 07:07 AM.

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