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    Default Bard 51 / NB 10 (+5) Build

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1Mci_.EIdqiqskqz.V0x

    Any feedback on thins build for endgame PvE and PvP?

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    stack crit instead, thats the main stat for bards. so 51 bard/10ranger/5sin

    the extra 5 points in ranger for 5% more hp.

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    3 in Unstable state is pretty much required for a bard. The rest is optional.

    I prefer to stick all 15 points in NB on my bard and leave 3rd soul a floater for whatever I need it at the time. Some others distribute extra 8 points in Sab for +Dex, or RS for +AP/end, or SIN for +crit.

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    Put the full 15 in NB, for the extra damage which boosts your heals a little (not a lot but still).
    You also need to keep NB as you will need to be using the ranged sap (Lost Hope) at times, due to many pugs not bothering to bring any other rogues as dps due to other classes completely out dps'ing them and generally bringing more to a dungeon than any rogue would (currently).

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    5 points into Ranger for 5% more crit and additionally your ranged weapon's DPS is used for skill calculations.

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    51 Bard/7 Sin/8 Sabo

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...EIdqiqskqz.VoM

    And here's why,

    1. Increased Dex
    2. Increased Crit chance
    3. Increased Phyical damage and with the buff to phyical damage on the mob.
    4. Posion buff on Sabo
    5. Better DPS assist
    6. 2 good bomb attacks
    7. 5x spike charge and BOOM!!


    Why I think KB is not the why to go,

    Only Coda of Fury and Wrath use points on damage, and that damage is low to start
    Bards have no true finshers for 5 points are wasted there, though I wished they did. I also wish Bards had a rez as well

    Bards are best paired with ranged souls with 15 points to spend you can get a better BANG for the buck build.
    Last edited by Lilliemunster; 04-07-2011 at 07:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilliemunster View Post
    Why I think KB is not the why to go,

    Only Coda of Fury and Wrath use points on damage, and that damage is low to start
    Bards have no true finshers for 5 points are wasted there, though I wished they did. I also wish Bards had a rez as well

    Bards are best paired with ranged souls with 15 points to spend you can get a better BANG for the buck build.

    But the reason people go 8 points in NB at least is to boost cadence damage by 24% not fury or wrath...

    now the rest 7 points can be debatable to where to put them.. personally I like ranger so i can get 5% crit and 46ap...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabtangs View Post
    But the reason people go 8 points in NB at least is to boost cadence damage by 24% not fury or wrath...

    now the rest 7 points can be debatable to where to put them.. personally I like ranger so i can get 5% crit and 46ap...
    Ranger or Sabo either are a good choice.

    I've tested and parsed other builds, but I get the best results from the one I'm using, did IT expert last night and was 3rd in dps, 2nd in healing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilliemunster View Post
    Ranger or Sabo either are a good choice.
    Yea.. it is true that we don't really need to be using cadence all the time.. and during then i've got nothing to do lol..

    how about something like this:
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...skqz.VcM0Eb.Vh

    It is kinda off topic since it's not a 51 bard build

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabtangs View Post
    Yea.. it is true that we don't really need to be using cadence all the time.. and during then i've got nothing to do lol..

    how about something like this:
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...skqz.VcM0Eb.Vh

    It is kinda off topic since it's not a 51 bard build
    You skipped power cord, that is pretty much essential for a bard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabtangs View Post
    Yea.. it is true that we don't really need to be using cadence all the time.. and during then i've got nothing to do lol..

    how about something like this:
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...skqz.VcM0Eb.Vh

    It is kinda off topic since it's not a 51 bard build
    I'd take the 2 points out of Good health and put them into Coup de Grace in the NB tree for your Bombs...

    You could probably get away with not having the AoE Mez and move it into the Powercord considering you have the AoE Snare that allows you to get away, i've always had issues with the AoE Mez not working because of AoE Damage, plus it is 1.5 second cast time which is pretty long...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panthro View Post
    I'd take the 2 points out of Good health and put them into Coup de Grace in the NB tree for your Bombs...
    I cant take out 2 points out of Good health cuz i need 10 points to reach tier 3 of bard tree...

    Quote Originally Posted by Panthro View Post
    You could probably get away with not having the AoE Mez and move it into the Powercord considering you have the AoE Snare that allows you to get away, i've always had issues with the AoE Mez not working because of AoE Damage, plus it is 1.5 second cast time which is pretty long...
    Quote Originally Posted by Dustfinder View Post
    You skipped power cord, that is pretty much essential for a bard.
    Right.. I might be better off with power cord than aoe mez, since I really do use it a lot (currently using 51 bard)

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    I roll 51/10/5 Bard/NB/RS.

    AP > Crit for Bards.

    (post 29) http://forums.riftgame.com/showthrea...Thoughts/page3

    For other Rogue souls Crit may be greater than AP, but that just isn't the case for Bards.
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