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    Default Looking for a NON PET Ranged Rogue PVE Raid spec, 600 dps minimum, is it possible?

    The title says it is all. Whether it based around MM, Ranger, or Sab, is it at all possible to achieve this? I have not given 51 Ranger/15 NB a shot, I will at our next raid. I personally don't care for raiding(did it in WoW for 4 years from beta to launch, tired of that BS, I'm here to PvP) but my guild is asking that the more experienced players attend raids. Can any of you share any success that you may have had with such a spec? It would be very much appreciated.
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    I think your best bet is 38 marks 11 nb 17 ***. Your unbuffed dps will vary between 550 and 700 depending on duration of fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motard View Post
    I think your best bet is 38 marks 11 nb 17 ***. Your unbuffed dps will vary between 550 and 700 depending on duration of fight.
    Yep, it's what I use with pretty good success for the rare times I have to dps, muchless range it. You also only lose 10% damage if you have to be mobile a lot and have to leave your pedestal, compared to losing 30% if you're full marks.

    That said I haven't tested it -much-, but from what I remember my ranged sab had near identical numbers with the stupid 5shrap/5spike rotation. I like the look and feel of the marksman more than the sab, however.
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    Whats the marks build look like with rotations? I'm currently using rng/assassin/bd 31/17/18 its ok i guess unless my pet is bugged or dead.

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    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M....EmMcEdxk0o.Vo

    Does about 600 dps self buffed on a boss dummy in T2 gear, plus has lovely AoE.

    Single target rotation is 5xSpike > 5xShrap > repeat

    If you don't mind losing some AoE dps you can pick up Demolition Specialist and then go further into ranger to pick up Bestial Fury, and then once a minute you will replace Detonate with Annihilation Bomb and then follow with a Head Shot to consume the combo points and get the 5% damage buff up.
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    i do 600+ dps as a saboteur at range, normal 30ish sab, 20ish sin, 14ish nb spec with 5x spike 5x shrap (though i go to blast on some bosses as it parses higher).

    yes it's mindnumbingly boring but it works and doesnt have a ranger pet.

    sad part is, i pull about 550dps as a 32ranger/32nb/2sin for ms debuff, fortunately the pet survives on fights where ms is needed, i also use a lazy rotation (dont have any nb stuff on my bar) so im sure i can eek out more dps if i play it right, this all while applying MS btw.
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    is that in full T2 or what, im having trouble pulling 500 with all blues and a 36dps gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alemar View Post
    is that in full T2 or what, im having trouble pulling 500 with all blues and a 36dps gun.
    Mix of T1/T2. http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...hxoV0VhdR.V0xz

    Use controlled fire and hit and run together.. get rapid fire up and keep it up, use strafe then bullseye deadeye->reload and do it all again.

    after that just use empowered on cooldown and spam swift, using cooldowns as they come to you.

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    You can easily hit 600 with any of the ranged specs if you are fully buffed. However I would recommend 51/15/0 ranger WITH pet for PvE. If you demand a build with no pet then I'd probably go with Sab since it gives nice AoE and if you have the melee possibility it raises your DPS quite a bunch. However sab needs an awesome gear to hit anywhere close to 600 from range as selfbuffed.

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    hmm yea i tried that mm build i can get good dps while the cd's are up, but after it drops to 300ish, and with the 51pt ranger build i do around 250 and the pet does around 110, this is all going off a dummy tho or i must be doing it wrong :-).

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    I personal;ly like 30MM/30NB. I find that it has great single target dps. I put the other points into ranger for the crit chance, AP raid buff and ranged wep dmg.

    I have not parsed it, and I do not have T2 gear yet, but others say it can get between 600-700dps in raids with T2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartimus View Post
    I personal;ly like 30MM/30NB. I find that it has great single target dps. I put the other points into ranger for the crit chance, AP raid buff and ranged wep dmg.

    I have not parsed it, and I do not have T2 gear yet, but others say it can get between 600-700dps in raids with T2.
    canu post the spec/rotation for this spec?

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    Maybe try this spec:

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...AG0b0L.0AM0xcb

    Same rotation as the spec w/ pet

    Headshot Rotation:

    Spike x 5, Annihilation Bomb > Headshot

    Normal Rotation:

    Spike x 5 > Detonate
    Shrapnel x 5 > Detonate

    I didn't do a full parse on it but I got up to 620 dps trying it briefly. I quit trying it when I realized it was dropping below 700 after 3 minutes.
    Last edited by Bonshee; 04-06-2011 at 07:42 PM.

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