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    Default [Post1.1] Rogue DPS Compendium !

    The following is a compilation of different builds and parses collected from several forum threads, provided for players who are looking for something else to try out post1.1, and hopefully be a useful starting tool for analysts and min-maxer as well. Since parses are done by different people and some of them do not have enough details, it is down to your own judgement as to whether you’ll find their builds to be an upgrade. This thread should however provide enough details to give you an insight as to how it should perform to a limited extent.

    Please note that this thread is not intended for the discussion as to whether rogue is subpar when compared to other callings or whether each build is viable under melee/pet-unfriendly encounters. If you find this thread somewhat useful or if you have some parses/ builds you’d like to be added to the thread, feel free to rate, bump, post your comments below or send me a PM. It would be very appreciated.

    I've tried to include as much info as possible, if you find any mistakes or if you think I've missed you out, please let me know. Thank you.

    20/31/15 Assassin/Saboteur/Nightblade
    Rotation: N/A
    DPS: 700ish / unknown conditions (Gear: T2, Stats: N/A) [Parse : N/A]
    Contrbutor: Bonshee
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    18/43/5 Assassin/Nightblade/Riftstalker
    Rotation:
    Conceal - Expose Weakness - Dark malady - Fiery Spike*2 - Blazing Strike
    Dusk Strike/Puncture - Twilight Force/Puncture - Twilight Force/Puncture - Blazing Strike
    Ebon Fury/ Scourge of Darkness when off CD. Build up Fiery Spike after Scourge of Darkness.

    DPS: 650ish / unknown conditions (Gear: T2, Stats: N/A) [Parse : N/A]
    Contributor: Bonshee
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    23/31/12 Assassin/Nightblade/Riftstalker
    Rotation:
    Shadow Fire - Splinter Shot - Piercing Shot - Headshot
    Spike Charge*5 - Detonate
    Piercing Shot - Splinter Shot - Quick Shot - Piercing Shot - Detonate
    Spike Charge*5 - Detonate
    Shadow Fire - Splinter Shot - Piercing Shot - Detonate
    DPS: 714 /selfbuffed boss dummy (Gear: T2, Stats: N/A)[Parse]
    Contributor: Bonshee
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    42/18/6 Nightblade/Assassin/Ranger
    Rotation:
    Conceal - Expose Weakness - Dark Malady - Fiery Spikes - Puncture -Scourge of Darkness
    Puncture - Primal Strike - Primal Strike - Blazing Strike
    Dusk Strike - Primal Strike - Primal Strike - Blazing Strike
    Ebon Fury - Dusk Strike - Dusk Strike - Blazing Strike (when Ebony fury is up)
    Dusk Strike - Fiery Spikes - Fiery Spikes - Primal Strike - Blazing Strike (to build up Fiery Spike)
    Scourge of Darkness - Fiery Spikes - Puncture/Dusk - Primal Strikes - Blazing Strike (When Scourge of Darkness is up)
    DPS: 850 / Full bard buff, Boss dummy (Gear: T1+T2, Stats: N/A )[Parse: N/A]
    DPS: ~865 / Full bard buff, Boss dummy (Gear: T2, 29.2x2+36dps Weapons, Stats:AP442 Crit563) [Parse]
    Contributor: Hypatiaa, Kammera
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    42/19/5 Nightblade/Assassin/Ranger
    Macro 1
    #show Backstab
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Fiery Chains
    cast Twilight Force
    cast Backstab
    cast Savage Strike
    cast Fiery Spike

    Macro 2
    #show Blazing Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Blazing Strike
    cast Flame Thrust

    Macro 3
    #show Dusk Strike
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Dusk Strike
    cast Puncture

    Rotation:
    Opener: Conceal - Expose Weakness - Dark Malady - Fiery Spike - Fiery Spike - Macro 1 till 5cp - Macro 2
    Repeat: Macro 3 - Macro 1 till 5cp - Macro 2
    Ebon Fury - Macro 3 - Macro 2 (When Ebon Fury is up)
    DPS: 728 / Self-buffed, Boss dummy (Gear: T2 Stats:N/A) [Parse]
    DPS: 856 / Raid-buffed, Raid rift Luthas Duskblade (Gear: T2 Stats:N/A) [Parse]
    DPS: 772 / Self-buffed, Boss dummy (Gear: T2 Stats:N/A) [Parse] (With Scourge of Darkness)
    DPS: 909 / Raid-buffed, Raid rift Luthas Duskblade (Gear: T2+Whetstone Stats:N/A) [Parse]
    Contributor: CrowneVict
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    32/15/19 Ranger/Nightblade/Assassin
    Rotation:
    Keep up headshot, Fiery spikes, Piercing Shot, Puncture
    DPS: 756 / Self-buffed, Boss dummy (Gear: 29.2x2 weapons Stats:394AP 622crit) [Parse]
    Conributor: Satyrnos
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    29/18/19 Nightblade/Assassin/Bladedancer
    Rotation: N/A
    DPS: 700 / selfbuffed, boss dummy (Gear:29.2*2 Weapons Stats: 441AP 678Crit) [Parse]
    Contributor: hydd
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    29/18/19 Nightblade/Assassin/Bladedancer
    Rotation: N/A
    DPS: 731 / selfbuffed, boss dummy(Gear:29.2+25 Weapons Stats: 404AP 662Crit) [Parse]
    Contributor: Yoma
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    26/23/17 Nightblade/Ranger/Assassin
    Macro 1
    Cast puncture
    cast dusk strike
    cast primal strike
    cast fiery spike

    Macro 2
    Cast scourge of darkness
    Cast blazing strike
    Cast head shot

    Rotation:
    quick shot*4 - fiery spike - head shot
    Macro 1 until 5cp - Macro 2
    After using the macro 2 for the first time, cast 1 x fiery spike.
    Ebon fury when off CD
    Keep fiery up all the time. cast head shot if needed and dont forget to cast one fiery again after any finisher that isnt blazing strike
    DPS: 731 / selfbuffed, boss dummy(Gear:29.2+25 Weapons Stats: 404AP 662Crit) [Parse]
    Contributor: Yoma
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    28/18/20 Saboteur/Nightblade/Assassin
    Rotation:
    Spike charge*5 - Detonate
    Shrapnel*5 - Detonate
    Refresh Barbed Trap when required
    DPS: 606 / selfbuffed, boss dummy(Gear:T2 Stats: N/A) [Parse]
    Contributor: WarTornPanda
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    17/31/18 Assassin/Nightblade/Bladedancer
    Macro
    #show Puncture
    cast Puncture
    cast Dusk Strike
    cast Precision Strike

    Rotation:
    Dark Malady - Fiery Spike - Any 2CP move - Blazing Strike
    Keen - Keen - 2CB move - Scourge of Darkness
    Reapply Fiery Spike
    Keen - Keen - 2CB move - Blazing Strike.
    DPS: 764 / selfbuffed, boss dummy(Gear:T1+T2 32.7+29.2 Weapons Stats: N/A) [Parse]
    Contributor: Sepher
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    18/42/6 Assassin/Nightblade/Ranger
    Rotation:
    Expose Weakness - Dark Malady - Fiery Spike - Puncture - Scourge of Darkness
    Puncture/Dusk Strike - Fiery Spike - Fiery Spike - Blazing Strike
    Ebon Fury when avaiable
    Puncture - Primal Strike*3 - Blazing Strike
    When you use Scourge of Darkness you have to instantly use Fiery Spike after!
    Dont use Dusk Strike and Puncture at the same 5 combo-->Finishing..
    DPS: 752 / bard buffs, 5man dungeon boss(Gear:N/A Stats: N/A) [Parse]
    Contributor: Locodawg, Potis
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    TY for putting this together

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    Something to take note is that currently the Sin 5% crit and Rng 5% crit talents do not stack even though it says they do on the character sheet.

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    Very informative post, just too bad there is not a single assassin build in there.

    I'll throw this in there in case there is a person who wants to play assassin instead of nightblade I don't really feel like showing the parses or rotation but if you take my word for it self buffed I parse around 700 with 29.2 daggers.

    34 assassin/26 nightblade/6 ranger
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...NRfx0f0z0R.V0o

    As for the assassin and ranger crit talents not stacking, it seems that way because on my parse I do usually get roughly 5% less crit then what I should be at. May just change the 6 ranger into 5 sab if that is the case.

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    There needs to be a baseline - some of them have buffs some don't, some don't mention it, some are grouped with other people debuffing and armor piercing...it's all over the place

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    Thanks for collecting these. May want to just link to the threads, though, since people fine-tune the builds and rotations as they experiment with them.

    The DPS claims should obviously be taken with a grain of salt, as testing environments/variables cannot be controlled properly.
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    BTW, pretty sure Silverghost and I came up with the NB/BD/Sin build before Sepher.
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    51 RNG- 15 NB - 0 SIN is still competitive with these specs, puts out more DPS than any other Ranger spec i've seen despite how generic it may be.
    Last edited by Parasite 69; 04-04-2011 at 11:31 PM.

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    Still experimenting with the build and trying different variations, but the last one i parsed looked like this: Nightblade (33) / Riftstalker (0) / Assassin (33)

    Parse on boss dummy:

    http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3...nb33dps703.png

    Concept: Keep the dots up.

    Gear: T1/T2, slow weapons (axe and sword) at 29/26 dps.

    Buffs: None, only weapon enchants.
    Last edited by Youd; 04-05-2011 at 12:28 AM.

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    funny: 26 nb 23 rg 17 sin is my highest (@Dummy) dps melee build.

    but if you use it at range it also pulls pretty good numbers, its the perfekt sdps hybrid pve build imo.

    no prob to pull over 750 dps in raid with only range attacks.

    so it provides excellent melee dps and very good range dps at once. this maybe saves some roleslot for someone, it does for me :-)

    30 nb 19 bd 17 sin is my second melee build, skyrocked at a raidrift boss up to 1,1 -1,2 k singledps WITHOUT using ebon fury and blade tempo. cant wait to test this at a melee friendly raidboss. seems to scale extremly well in raid enviroments as its not on top dps at dummys.


    btw thx for the post, should be a sticky!

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    Now if only we were fighting dummies all the time. I have yet to see any rogue in our groups, myself included if I play as dps rather than bard, put out the numbers people post on forums while using those specs. The ranger in our group last night in full t1 was putting out around 425 dps, which seems typical in experts.

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    Thanks. Can you number each build "1) / 2) / 3)" etc. and rank according to highest DPS first please? Will make it alot more useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristi View Post
    Now if only we were fighting dummies all the time. I have yet to see any rogue in our groups, myself included if I play as dps rather than bard, put out the numbers people post on forums while using those specs. The ranger in our group last night in full t1 was putting out around 425 dps, which seems typical in experts.
    whats the point? those numbers are proofed. work on your rotations maybe?

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    not sure why everyone is parsing against a dummy.... I'd like to see more t2 boss parse.

    removed the other players from the parse as not having their permission to post names.

    Smouldaron: (02:58) 1213 | [Rayhn-Detonate-1563] | Rayh 686 / 192 / 176 i 159 / 0

    TYPE DAMAGE EXT DPS AVERAGE MIN HIT MAX HIT RESIST HITS CRIT % SWINGS TO HIT %
    All 122,171 686.35 540.58 27 1,563 All 226 42% 228 99.12
    Spike Charge 47,466 266.66 765.58 228 1,160 Physical 62 39% 62 100.00
    Shrapnel Charge 34,357 193.02 497.93 241 893 Physical 69 57% 69 100.00
    Detonate 20,774 116.71 989.24 376 1,563 Physical 21 33% 21 100.00
    Time Bomb 6,881 38.66 529.31 356 722 Earth 13 54% 13 100.00
    Charge Booster 5,319 29.88 279.95 218 337 Physical 19 0% 19 100.00
    Auto Attack 4,263 23.95 142.10 60 195 Physical 30 53% 30 100.00
    Fragmentation Bomb 1,442 8.10 721.00 719 723 Physical 2 100% 2 100.00
    Annihilation Bomb 1,092 6.13 546.00 407 685 Unknown 2 50% 4 50.00
    Lethal Poison 280 1.57 70.00 67 71 Water 4 0% 4 100.00
    Virulent Poison 270 1.52 90.00 90 90 Water 3 0% 3 100.00
    27 0.15 27.00 27 27 Mana/Energy 1 0% 1 100.00
    Killing 0 0.00 NaN 0 0 Unknown 0 NaN 1 0.00



    Cyclorax: (03:01) 1176 | [Rayhn-Detonate-1530] | Rayh 693 / 195 /i 159 / 129 / 0 /

    TYPE DAMAGE EXT DPS AVERAGE MIN HIT MAX HIT RESIST HITS CRIT % SWINGS TO HIT %
    All 125,476 693.24 484.46 56 1,530 All 259 39% 261 99.23
    Spike Charge 51,381 283.87 815.57 355 1,160 Physical 63 49% 63 100.00
    Shrapnel Charge 28,997 160.20 460.27 235 884 Physical 63 44% 63 100.00
    Detonate 22,394 123.72 1,066.38 548 1,530 Physical 21 48% 21 100.00
    Auto Attack 7,383 40.79 136.72 56 203 Physical 54 48% 54 100.00
    Time Bomb 6,652 36.75 511.69 385 714 Earth 13 38% 13 100.00
    Charge Booster 5,315 29.36 279.74 227 339 Physical 19 0% 19 100.00
    Annihilation Bomb 1,131 6.25 565.50 391 740 Unknown 2 50% 4 50.00
    Virulent Poison 1,079 5.96 89.92 85 95 Water 12 0% 12 100.00
    Lethal Poison 758 4.19 68.91 66 73 Water 11 0% 11 100.00
    Fragmentation Bomb 386 2.13 386.00 386 386 Physical 1 0% 1 100.00


    Jultharin: (02:14) 1663 | [-Blazing Strike-2057] | Rayh 690 / 641 / 183 / 148 / 0 /

    TYPE DAMAGE EXT DPS AVERAGE MIN HIT MAX HIT RESIST HITS CRIT % SWINGS TO HIT %
    All 92,460 690.00 378.93 16 1,354 All 244 30% 250 97.60
    Spike Charge 32,980 246.12 716.96 339 1,100 Physical 46 39% 46 100.00
    Shrapnel Charge 24,579 183.43 390.14 205 800 Physical 63 38% 63 100.00
    Detonate 14,678 109.54 978.53 500 1,354 Physical 15 60% 15 100.00
    Time Bomb 5,546 41.39 426.62 335 622 Earth 13 23% 13 100.00
    Auto Attack 5,151 38.44 107.31 41 203 Physical 48 33% 48 100.00
    Charge Booster 3,154 23.54 225.29 190 283 Physical 14 0% 14 100.00
    Annihilation Bomb 3,053 22.78 508.83 355 656 Unknown 6 50% 12 50.00
    Virulent Poison 1,174 8.76 83.86 80 89 Water 14 0% 14 100.00
    Fragmentation Bomb 649 4.84 649.00 649 649 Physical 1 100% 1 100.00
    Serrated Blades 578 4.31 48.17 16 85 Physical 12 0% 12 100.00
    Lethal Poison 514 3.84 64.25 62 69 Water 8 0% 8 100.00
    Waning Shadesource 404 3.01 101.00 101 101 Death 4 0% 4 100.00


    Not seeing the big issue with sab spec evering bringing up
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