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    Soulwalker
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    Default Poll: +15% Dex or +5% Crit

    What one do you think is better?

    +15% Dex
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    +5% Crit

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    depends on current dex... there is a threashhold where the dex is > crit... but i do not feel like doing the math

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    Personally what one would you choose?
    It sound to me that +5% Crit will be better in the end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levo View Post
    Personally what one would you choose?
    It sound to me that +5% Crit will be better in the end?
    Low levels i stick with +5% crit.
    Higher levels with a higher Dex base, id do +15% dex.
    personal bias based on how the Critical Attack value mechanic works

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    How much dex = 1% crit... multiply by 5, that is how much dex increase you need to = 5% crit... now if that number is 15% dex, then multiply out to find out what your dex needs to be for 15% dex to = 5% crit increase... if you are under that, then get the 5% crit, if over then get the dex... respec as needed, and if you have the points, get both...

    Unless you are asking is the 15% dex (which gives bonuses to crit, parry, dodge, etc) better than just a point blank bonus to crit... in that case, up to you... =) I prefer to have my bonuses to crit along with maxing out my dex...

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    So there isnt a max dex cap / diminishing returns on dex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoe View Post
    How much dex = 1% crit... multiply by 5, that is how much dex increase you need to = 5% crit... now if that number is 15% dex, then multiply out to find out what your dex needs to be for 15% dex to = 5% crit increase... if you are under that, then get the 5% crit, if over then get the dex... respec as needed, and if you have the points, get both...

    Unless you are asking is the 15% dex (which gives bonuses to crit, parry, dodge, etc) better than just a point blank bonus to crit... in that case, up to you... =) I prefer to have my bonuses to crit along with maxing out my dex...
    that is wrong... becasue dex also grants AP there is a point where the lower crit but higher AP is grater then the crit alone.


    and its roughly 20 crit = 1% i beileve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll03 View Post
    that is wrong... becasue dex also grants AP there is a point where the lower crit but higher AP is grater then the crit alone.


    and its roughly 20 crit = 1% i beileve
    10 crit = 1 %
    10 ap = 1 dps

    I value:
    1 crit = 1.3 ap

    conclusion:
    none of this information applies to the original question in this post ;)
    Last edited by Kinien; 03-24-2011 at 09:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levo View Post
    So there isnt a max dex cap / diminishing returns on dex?
    I don't think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinien View Post
    10 crit = 1 %
    10 ap = 1 dps

    I value:
    1 crit = 1.3 ap

    conclusion:
    none of this information applies to the original question in this post ;)
    I am so wrong on the 10 crit = 1% math

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    27 Dex = 1% crit, so 135 Dex = 5% crit

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    That's slightly incorrect Arcshayde. The correct answer is going to be based on your level and/or DEX stat (which that calc may be based on your own).

    I'v recorded the data for Crit from Level 30-40 on my Rogues and with an average DEX of 200 I always came up with:
    1DEX=1 Crit =0.05% to crit (+/- .002%)

    Admittedly, I didn't start recording the values until L30 so for comparison so I started a low level Rogue just to calculate some lower values and here is what I found @ level 7:

    Level 7 w/ 28 DEX: 1DEX=1 Crit=0.3566% to crit (I had to re-check this like 3 times to make sure the calcs were correct too)

    I did take care to make sure ONLY the DEX stat changed for the calculations and not the STR, AP, or Crit. No buffs.

    So, at least for a lvl 30s Rogue 20Dex=1% to crit

    If anyone has any further stats to fill in the blank levels here that would be helpful in actually determining the curve.
    Last edited by Lukahl; 03-26-2011 at 07:47 AM.

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    Unbuffed, 5% crit > 15% dex > 15% ap.

    Raid Buffed, 15% ap > 15% dex > 5% crit.
    Last edited by Bonshee; 03-26-2011 at 07:45 AM.

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    I thought it was 22 dex to 1 crit not 27. So 5% crit using my low end numbers would be 110 dex. Is that 15% ever going to net you 110 dex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDiego View Post
    I thought it was 22 dex to 1 crit not 27. So 5% crit using my low end numbers would be 110 dex. Is that 15% ever going to net you 110 dex?
    You need about 750 dex for the 15% dex to outweigh 5% crit .... but dex also affects AP/Parry/Dodge/Crit.

    so at 50 dex > all

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