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    Shadowlander Jackyboy011's Avatar
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    Default Need some Ranged PVE Rogue Advice.

    I'm looking for a ranged build for PVE. I was wondering if it is better to work through Ranger or Marksmen or if its better to go with a Nightblade main with some solid damage increase souls working with it. Anyone out their running NB in PVE?

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    *** > NB when coupled with Ranger/Marks

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...0x0V0c.bVR0x0b

    This is a powerhouse for ranged DPS (my current spec)
    *Pets*
    -Raptor Pet for DPS
    -Boar for Tanking
    -Wolf sucks compared to the Raptor...

    *Buffs I use*
    -Pred Instincts - 46 AP
    -Lethal Poison - +5% crit on weap apply
    -Hellfire Blades - +5% dmg on weap apply

    *Macros* - These allow auto switching between ranged and melee ranged abilities
    1. Spam (crippling shot, piercing shot, puncture, primal strike, quick shot, escape artist)
    2. Finisher (head shot, final blow)
    3. AOE (concussive blast, fan out)
    4. Haste (rapid fire shot, shadow fire, final blow)

    *Skills used outside of macros*
    -Marksman pedestal
    -Expose Weakness - Can use it while in stealth but i find opening with Shadow Fire is better
    -Rejuvinate - I also have this on a mouse button, keeps the pet alive
    -Rain of Arrows...primary AOE move, I use the AOE macro once between Rain of Arrows cooldown (fan out)

    *Combat* favor headshot over rapid fire shot (i cast rapid fire just to buff haste)
    1. Drop Sniper Pedestal
    2. Cast Shadow Fire - only used to open
    3. hit Spam Macro
    4. finisher macro
    5. Spam macro
    6. Haste Macro (only use to refresh haste)
    7. spam finisher...etc.

    *notes*
    -average 540-550 dps ranged sustained, 400 melee range (700ish with bard buffs)
    -this build does pretty sweet melee dps when the mob comes in range so when it gets to you..you don't have to kite/run.
    -puncture is pretty sweet for helping build combo points in melee range.
    -final blow hits freaking hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinien View Post
    *** > NB when coupled with Ranger/Marks

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...0x0V0c.bVR0x0b

    This is a powerhouse for ranged DPS (my current spec)
    *Pets*
    -Raptor Pet for DPS
    -Boar for Tanking
    -Wolf sucks compared to the Raptor...

    *Buffs I use*
    -Pred Instincts - 46 AP
    -Lethal Poison - +5% crit on weap apply
    -Hellfire Blades - +5% dmg on weap apply

    *Macros* - These allow auto switching between ranged and melee ranged abilities
    1. Spam (crippling shot, piercing shot, puncture, savage strike, quick shot, escape artist)
    2. Finisher (head shot, final blow)
    3. AOE (concussive blast, fan out)
    4. Haste (rapid fire shot, shadow fire, final blow)

    *Skills used outside of macros*
    -Marksman pedestal
    -Expose Weakness - Can use it while in stealth but i find opening with Shadow Fire is better
    -Rejuvinate - I also have this on a mouse button, keeps the pet alive
    -Rain of Arrows...primary AOE move, I use the AOE macro once between Rain of Arrows cooldown (fan out)

    *Combat* favor headshot over rapid fire shot (i cast rapid fire just to buff haste)
    1. Drop Sniper Pedestal
    2. Cast Shadow Fire - only used to open
    3. hit Spam Macro
    4. finisher macro
    5. Spam macro
    6. Haste Macro (only use to refresh haste)
    7. spam finisher...etc.

    *notes*
    -average 540-550 dps ranged sustained, 400 melee range (700ish with bard buffs)
    -this build does pretty sweet melee dps when the mob comes in range so when it gets to you..you don't have to kite/run.
    -puncture is pretty sweet for helping build combo points in melee range.
    -final blow hits freaking hard.
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1M...0x0V0c.bVR0x0b pasted teh wrong one

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    Should be Virulent Poison and Savage strike (made some errors in the explaination)

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    Ranger 31
    • 5/5 Eagle Eye … Static Crit
    • 2/2 Killing Focus … Ranged Weapon Dmg modifier
    • 3/3 Improved Quick Shot … Added Bleed Effect
    • 2/2 Bestial Fury … Damage modifier
    • 3/3 Blood Rage … Increased Pet Damage
    • 1/1 Piercing Shot … Armor Pen Debuff
    • 1/3 Exposure … Added Armor Reduction
    • 5/5 Double Shot … 50% Chance to Fire Extra Auto Shot
    • 3/3 Opportunity … 100% Chance to add a combo point after a Finisher
    • 1/1 Rain of Arrows … Staple AoE Attack
    • 1/1 King of the Jungle … Pet Damage modifier & AoE pet damage reduction
    • 3/3 Prey on the Weak … Damage modifier
    • 1/1 Blood Raptor … Highest DPS pet
    o Use Splinter Shot & Piercing Shot as Openers
    o Use Quick Shot as Focus Dump
    o Use Head Shot in rotation for Bestial Fury buff
    o Use Predatory Instincts for added AP
    o Use Rejuvenate for pet survivability
    o Have Concussive Shot available for interrupts
    o Have Escape artist available
    o Have Greater Dire Wolf available… situational for damage mitigation
    o Use Blood Raptor for straight DPS fights

    Marksman 18
    • 5/5 Single Minded Focus … Increased Damage to Deadeye & Rapid Fire Shot
    • 3/3 Sharpshooter … Increased Hit Chane (if needed)
    o 3/5 Master Archer … Add attack damage (if hit capped)
    • 5/5 Increased Fire Power … Added AP
    • 5/5 Penetrating Shots … Added Armor Reduction
    o Use Marksman’s Pedestal for 10% damage modifier
    o Use Rapid Fire Shot in rotation for 30% haste
    o Use Deadeye Shot in rotation when all buffs are active
    o Use Fan Out for mobile AoE
    o Hit and Run available

    Assassin 17
    • 5/5 Ruthlessness … Increased static crit
    • 3/3 Serrated Blades … progress the tree
    • 2/2 Murderous Intent … Damage modifier
    • 5/5 Cruel Intentions … Damage modifier
    • 2/2 Magnify Pain … Increase critcal damage
    o Macro Savage Strike to Quick Shot
    o Macro Final Blow to Head Shot
    o Use Lethal Poison … Added crit chance
    o Use Virulent Poison … Added attack
    o Stealth available w/ Incapacitate for quick CC
    o Elusiveness available to allow close range CC if needed


    Rotation:
    • Splinter Shot > Piercing Shot > Quick Shot (x2) … 5 combo pts
    • Head Shot (Bestial Fury) > Quick Shot (x4) … 5 combo pts
    • Rapid Fire Shot (30% Haste) > Splinter Shot > Piercing Shot … Refresh Debuff & DoT/5 combo pts
    • Deadeye Shot > Quick Shot (x4) > Deadeye Shot
    • Repeat Opener & Re-apply Head Shot/Rapid Fire Shot as needed
    • BURST: All buffs/debuffs up @ 5 combo pts … Hit and Run > Deadeye Shot > Empowered Shot (x2) > Deadeye Shot

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    Ranger/Sin/NB = MM/Sin/NB > Ranger/Sin/MM.

    MM has been nerfed so much, its only really viable when you're heavily invested into it. And if you are heavily invested into it, there's no reason to be using Ranger attacks. 11 points in NB can get you about 20% damage bonus; with fairly decent uptime on the hellfire blades proc, even with only 1 point into it.

    Also, Haste is a wasted stat for ranged rogues, our auto attacks do about 3-5% of our total damage.

    Armor penetration is also a weak stat when it comes to DPS. 20% of a warrior's armour is about 3-4% mitigation, for anyone else its closer to 1%.
    Last edited by KellionBane; 03-15-2011 at 10:03 AM.

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