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    Default Vulcanist Molten Wave macro is top DPS?

    Hi,

    iam fresh 65 and trying to learn the Vulcanist atm. The best dps i getting with spamming a "all in one" Molten Wave Macro at melee range:

    #show Stroke of Brilliance
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Molten Wave
    cast Stroke of Brilliance
    cast Vorpal Salvo
    cast Lashing Wind
    cast @self Spiritualism
    cast Primal Avatar: Drake

    Because Molten Core ticks the dmg at the start of each Sec. u can cancel the channel at around 2.5 Sec. after the 3th dmg tick. The 3 stacks of Molten Wave dmg increase also not fade.

    With my "fresh 65" gear i get around 30k+ dmg, all other rotations give me less dmg. The 21 Dev/18 Vul hybrid gets even more dmg with that.

    DId i do something wrong with my rotations or can some confirm that this is the top dps?

    Thx, Tiir

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    Take a look at this. This should help increase your dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapnia View Post
    Take a look at this. This should help increase your dps.
    You are wrong as always.

    With someone actually revealing this ghetto spec I could go further and give a sneak pick hint.

    4-16-19

    Go figure out what it means.
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    #show Stroke of Brilliance
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Molten Wave
    cast @self Spiritualism
    cast Stroke of Brilliance
    cast Vorpal Salvo
    cast Rage Spike
    cast Precision Bolt
    cast Skill Shot
    cast Fury Blast

    1. Conflagrate maintained
    2. Fury Blast dot maintanted
    3. Skill Shot when ever possible
    3. Ethereal beam on CD
    3. Primal Avatar on CD
    4. Macro

    Skills on own button: conflagrate, fury blast, ethereal beam, primal avatar, skill shot......
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    Quote Originally Posted by ETI View Post
    You are wrong as always.

    With someone actually revealing this ghetto spec I could go further and give a sneak pick hint.

    4-16-19

    Go figure out what it means.
    The 31 Vulc should pull higher number with his gear than the playstyle he posted. I am by no means saying it is top dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ETI View Post
    You are wrong as always.

    With someone actually revealing this ghetto spec I could go further and give a sneak pick hint.

    4-16-19

    Go figure out what it means.
    5-14-20 is better ;) I'll make a guide for this spec eventually but it's too much for 99% of primalists to handle right now
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    This brings me to the question of how exactly is molten wave supposed to work because it is the most unclear ability text I've ever seen. It took me a bit to figure out that it's a torrent-like move that hits things in front of you because it doesn't actually say that in the ability, but also does the damage actually increase for each target you hit as "decreased by -10%" implies or is that a goof and it's supposed to read "decreased by 10%?"

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    5 berserker, 14 Vulcanist, 20 Dervish :S??
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    8/8, like that even matters anymore..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangu View Post
    5-14-20 is better ;) I'll make a guide for this spec eventually but it's too much for 99% of primalists to handle right now
    pfft thats a bold assumption. All the primalists I have seen(are more than likely all alts) are already 65 geared up to 1k hit or higher already and know every soul and use them effectively. One in particular was in igp first week. Healed first & second boss(w/ defiler) just fine and dpsed just fine on uruluuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangu View Post
    5-14-20 is better ;) I'll make a guide for this spec eventually but it's too much for 99% of primalists to handle right now
    it's possible i did something wrong but when i had tested a hybrid like that on pts i couldn't get it near 31 vulcanist, and i believe once cyclism gets fixed 31 vulc will be even further ahead, but again maybe i was doing something wrong but the rotation i used would never hit max cunning unless i tried to hit max cunning.

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    You don't need max cunning in this spec :P

    Actually it is really weird and reaver-like spec, exept the fact that you need to stand still 63,(63)% of the time (OMGOMGOMGwecantplaythisfixit).

    Here is your bone.

    PB-SoB-LW-Vorpal-MW-LW-MW
    rince and repeat

    You welcome and so on.
    BTW found even better stats distribution yesterday(good point by Orangu to go deeper in Typhoon). 7-13-19
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    I don't have a max-level Primalist so I wouldn't exactly know better or not, but I think the 20-14-5 would look something like this. You lose the ap/wd, but gain 3 strong dots (and both the raid debuffs), 1 of which does Ethereal damage. I've always enjoyed theory-crafting these kinds of things so I'd be very interested in what conclusions others could draw from this variant. Enjoy!
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    Good point Missed the fact that 5 in Orangu's post was refferencing to berserker and not Typhoon.

    Still it ended up in discovering a spec that is doing more ST deeps comparing to 31 vulc with LOTS of cleaving (Mr.PADdington).

    So for now we got 2 working specs for Vulvish© that are pulling ahead of full vulcanist.

    Rotation for zerker variant:

    Opener (16s)*
    PB-Conflag-ST-EC-SoB-LW-FB-Vorpal-LW-MW-SoB-MW

    Rotation block (16s)*
    PB-ST-Conflag-EC-SoB-LW-FB-Vorpal-LW-MW-SoB-MW

    If you want to go PRO-mode and have a good ping this can be reduced to 15s by clipping MW channel after ~2.3-2.5 sec resulting in ~6% DPS increase.

    P.S. I should probably start to post lots of threads with "Quick [insertnamehere] Guide" like one well know person does... OK,I'm not. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by ETI View Post
    PB-SoB-LW-Vorpal-MW-LW-MW
    Actually I came up with new SUPER-PUPER-DUPER Rotation.

    Opener PB-SOB-LW-MW

    Rotation
    MW(clip at 2.5) - Earth Macro - LW + PB every 15 sec

    Earth Macro obviously is cast Vorpal cast SoB.

    With this approach you drop MW stacks only once every 15 sec with the change to PB duration. Which leads to -++ rotation instead of -+ which gives you a gain of 1 empowered channel for every 6 channels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ETI View Post
    Actually I came up with new SUPER-PUPER-DUPER Rotation.

    Opener PB-SOB-LW-MW

    Rotation
    MW(clip at 2.5) - Earth Macro - LW + PB every 15 sec

    Earth Macro obviously is cast Vorpal cast SoB.

    With this approach you drop MW stacks only once every 15 sec with the change to PB duration. Which leads to -++ rotation instead of -+ which gives you a gain of 1 empowered channel for every 6 channels.
    damn Jozy, you are really digging that Primalist. So much dedication

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