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    Default Nec/Lock/dom Pve dps build please comment :)

    so ive been messing about with the talent tree and have come up with this, please feel free to critisis it its heavy Nec/lock with some extra intellect and a cc from Dom, i also thought about changeing dom to chlora but dont think it went so well

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z....EtzzVzoks.McV

    edit -changed the soul builder model thats a much nicer one, cheers shhh

    its a very wow style build atm in terms of getting to the top of a tree and would be intrested in peoples oppinions in this and suggestions

    clustering bones and vengeful spirit, im not sure which 1 to favor or if i should reduce my crit or spell damage from necro so i can max both out as i know necros pets are much more key to dps then the owner
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    I have a difficult time / lack of interest in reading that soul builder. Can you redo it with this http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html
    instead?

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    Nearly there!

    I find your build good but not good enough it lacks a bit of efficiency. Why? Try to check this build I made from yours and rate it by yourself

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1z...VV.xtczA0kks.M

    What did I change:

    Firstly, I removed Soul Purge from your build becouse you get a similiar ability called Mortality from your Warlock Soul Tree. Secondly, Having so mutch points in dominator is not really necessary. It's more about personal preference, actually.
    And at last I put some more points in the Void Bolt talents since Void Bolt deals more damage than Plague Bolt.

    Just try it and tell me what I was doing wrong in your opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulblayze View Post
    so ive been messing about with the talent tree and have come up with this, please feel free to critisis it its heavy Nec/lock with some extra intellect and a cc from Dom, i also thought about changeing dom to chlora but dont think it went so well

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z....EtzzVzoks.McV

    edit -changed the soul builder model thats a much nicer one, cheers shhh

    its a very wow style build atm in terms of getting to the top of a tree and would be intrested in peoples oppinions in this and suggestions

    clustering bones and vengeful spirit, im not sure which 1 to favor or if i should reduce my crit or spell damage from necro so i can max both out as i know necros pets are much more key to dps then the owner
    all points in dom=useless first of all, if you want to cc in instances you can just pick up the blank dom soul(it's not like the mob will dispell your cc and you'll have to reapply it), ditching 10% dmg from improved armor for 10% intelligence...gg, 5/5 points spent in a 10% chance to get an instant when all your spells are instant except void bolt (prob you're planning to spam this over plague bolt) again useless since you will get the 1.5 GD anyway even if you get the instant proc which is the same since your VB has 1.5 sec cast, no lingering pain for everlasting life leach (i guess you like to keep track of another dot and waste an additional 1.5s to reapply it when it could easily be refreshed by void bolt), 1/3 necrosis but 1/3 vengefull spirit and 1 in consumption(useless in pve or at least marginal, you're going to tap the pet for mana anyway and i'm pretty sure you won't use this to dispell..bosses), i'm guessing this specc is intended for pve in which case it's fairly weak and involves a great deal of skill to maintain the rotation, in pvp..well i hope it's not intended for pvp for your own sake.

    Consider this, if you want to go dot based go atleast 38 in lock (i suggest full 51 for +dot dmg as it is your main dmg source), if you want to go with pet sinergy go 51 in necro, if you want big crits i sugges pyro with a great deal amount of points invested and the mandatory 15 points in elemental (5% crit, 50% more dmg on crits, no real dps build without it).
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    dosent plaguebolt boost ur pets dps making it more effective for a deep necro build to void? i was unlcear myself on what the stacks it applys really do.

    and as an ex wow player i must haver over estimated the benefit of interlect when going into the dom tree

    cheers for the comments all, appretiate
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    After quit abit of time this is what ive come up with

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    Well after seeing your updated post / soulbuilder for pve dps.. I'm thinking that you're going so far into dominator for the 10% int bonus. I think as it is right now spellpower is more important than int for overall sustained damage. So based on that you could remove 5 points in acumen (losing the root skills but they arent important for dps anyway) and put the 5 points into improved warlock armor which improves the total damage you deal 10% also giving you a dmgshield when attacked. I'm thinking 10% damage boost overall is higher than 10% int (unless you have some insanely remarkable int later on).

    I would personally remove the quick thinking 2 points in dom and put them elsewhere as well.

    my 2cp.

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    sorry above i meant to put this new build in anyways after playing with the trees i came up with this, not sure about the spell crit/instant cast talents maybe i should swap the ratio

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z...0kdR.eeRh0MVxz
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    It's worth putting 6 points into Dom to get Priest's Lament. Insta cast 60% chance to silence. Plus polymorph is a nice ability to have handy.

    Keep soul purge, the warlock equivalent works on a small AOE, and does not heal the pet.

    I don't think you need to get imp. Voidbolt as you will very rarely use that or plaguebolt as you progress in lvls.

    I plan on playing Necromancer full 51, just my 2 cents.

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    Here's the thing if you want to rely on Necromancer then you first have to accept that your pet will be responsible for 70 percent of your damage output. This is not a bad thing just a different way to play.

    So if you consider that the pet is the main source of the damage your dealing then if you are going to be a necromancer then you need to answer some questions to yourself.

    Am I in a group situation where I feel safe? If not then Warlock will add to your survivability by a bunch. However the Necromancer recieves a mage pet that can stand back with them and if you are paying attention neither of you should have to worry about healing, or finding ways to reduce damage dealt to you.

    I have theory crafted the best necromancer boss fight build IMO.

    1. The purest build.

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0zwvR.EtftAtkus.xxohz


    I also input chloromancer over the dominator this is a personal choice as I think the spores are fun to have.

    This build will ensure that your pet is in fact your WEAPON. Going 51/15/0

    Why 51 in Necromancer this seems to lack creativity? Not Necessarily as the lack of cap on Life Bane makes this build seem ridiculously over powered, considering it will add 102 percent additional damage to all undead pets.

    Now if we "hope" that empty the crypts is fixed, instant cast please, or allow us to cast Exhume before hand! This adds 5 shamblers to increase your damage output.

    Also consider the Mass Grave 51 point ability given in the necromancer soul, allowing you to cast an additional rogue and mage pet for 30 seconds. While I realize this is a 5 minute cool down and that seems too large, consider the following boss fight situation.

    1. Cast PB with 5 points into it, gives you 2 stacks of DC. Cast Grave Rot, Necrosis, Looming Demise, additional dots giving the tank time to build his aggro "HE IS GOING TO NEED IT" Now it's time to bring the pain, grave rot again DC is about to be used. Enter Lich Form, add damage to yourself and 30 percent to your Undead Pets. Cast Mass Grave here comes your additional Rogue and Mage pet. Empty the crypts you now have 8 Undead pets attacking the boss all receiving 30 percent from lich form and 102 percent from life bane 8 pets attacking for 132 percent increased damage for 30 seconds.

    We can also be hopeful that the rogue is killed via aoe damage by the boss, triggering corpse explosion and he has 50 percent more health

    I can't imagine any dungeon boss scenario in which the 5 percent crit damage or 20 percent additional spell damage via warlock soul could bring a warlock or necromancer spec to do more damage. In a raid this might be usable twice.

    Also let us not forget that you can switch specs at anytime building a better AoE Garbage build to use until you reach a boss. Then simply switch for the fight.
    Last edited by Xynvyctus; 02-12-2011 at 05:16 PM.

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    cheers i will have to try 51 necro at some point, i guess from being a ex wow player i have a hard time chooseing so many next to useless pve talents in order to get deep in the root, thank god for 4 specs

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