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    Prophet of Telara
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    Default AoE Spec

    Has anyone found a good AoE spec ? The best results I have achieved with 61 Harb/11 Storm/4 Arb but far behind the 4 - 5 million dps of a rogue.

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    I had made a AoE spec a few months ago with stormcaller. (Needed something f2p)

    https://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree#...gH5aGayGiBh0/d
    (missing point in voltaic strength)

    legendaries:
    internalized charge
    firestorm
    neural prod (cause ogcd, primary spell for eternal, bonus dmg)
    lightning arc (obviously)
    raging storm

    I did 2m-2.1m sustained on 8 dummies with it. Still no match for rogue aoe.

    Out of curiosity, how much aoe dps does the 61 harb do?
    Last edited by Dragate; 10-06-2017 at 08:01 AM.

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    I do 2.3-2.5 m dps on 8 level 72 raid test dummys (which are raiddebuffed) but with the last step of the eternal weapon, I think your spec is probably better. I will test them today

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    After a few short tests without any optimizations, I can say that your spec clearly does more dps.

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    At how much did you sustain?

    My gear was ok, not the best. 1st eternal stage, non-upgraded BiS wand and non BiS helmet, upgraded gear from LFR TD, 2 non-upgraded items from IROTP, lvl 9 frags. You get the picture.

    Spec is very mobile, everything (except lightning arc) can be cast while moving. For me it's a 4 button spec. I'm not that guy that pays much attention to detail/micromanagement so pretty sure there still might be room for improvement, though it could never reach rogue aoe dps.
    Last edited by Dragate; 10-06-2017 at 07:59 AM.

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    The last time I played stormcaller was at Matron Zamira.
    I need to relearn stormcaller now and create new macros and alerts and can not yet tell exactly what the full potential of this spec is.

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    Alright. Later I'll share my macros see if there's anything useful there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragate View Post
    Alright. Later I'll share my macros see if there's anything useful there.
    That would be helpful

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    Just in case someone else in the future seeks for a mage AoE spec, I'll try to be as comprehensive as possible.

    The general idea is to build as many Electrified stacks as possible, spend them and all over again. The faster you alternate between building (3rd macro below) and consuming (4th macro below), the more dps you perform. Lightning Arc (which scales with Electrified stacks) is the hard-hitting ability. Positives of this spec are you can cast most spells (except Lightning Arc and Forked Lightning but latter is used rarely) while moving and that it's F2P.

    So, the spec I actually have is 55 Storm / 21 Pyro / 0 Dom.

    Mage Armor: Tempest Armor

    Legendary Abilities:
    • Lightning Arc
    • Raging Storm
    • Internalized Charge
    • Fire Storm
    • Neural Prod (Just because it will trigger Eternal Weapon proc without being affected by GCD and cast-time)

    I have 4 main macros:

    1st Opener (& refresh):
    #show Static Flux
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Static Flux
    Storm Locus

    Description: Keep Static Flux on cooldown but always, when you have no Electrified stacks. Never let Storm Locus fall off the enemies. As this macro does not trigger aggro, it's great to be used before/when the fight starts, as well as after the use of the last macro.

    2nd Opener (& refresh):
    #show Neural Prod
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Neural Prod
    cast @gtae Fire Storm
    cast Living Storm

    Description: Keep Fire Storm and Living Storm up 100%. Living Storm will re-apply itself so you can forget it once cast. Neural Prod just gives free bonus damage as it is instant and off-GCD. It will also trigger your Eternal Weapon proc since it's a primary spell.

    Electrified Builder:
    #show Eye of the storm
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Break Free
    cast Fading Light
    cast Countdown
    cast @self Arcane Manipulation
    cast @gtae Eye of the Storm
    cast @gtae Hailstorm
    cast Lightning Storm
    cast Raging Storm
    cast Forked Lightning
    cast Thunder Shock

    Description: This macro will build your Electrified stacks (up to 5) and is the most-spammed out of the all. It consists of the Electrified builders, Countdown and some less significant spells. Countdown will spread while Fire Storm is up, as well as usually re-apply itself. To be more precise, when Countdown triggers on one enemy, Fire Storm will re-apply it from another enemy that might have a longer timer on the Countdown. Countdown will not be cast on an enemy that already has it so it's safe to be early in the macro. Thunder Shock is for when moving.

    Electrified Consumer:
    #show Lightning Arc
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Internalize Charge
    cast Lightning Arc
    cast Lightning Field

    Description: This macro will consume your Electrified stacks. Once you reach 5 stacks, you use this to get LIC up and use one of the next 2 abilities. No need to use Lightning Field when Lightning Arc has already spent your stacks so don't spam this macro too much.

    Example Rotation:
    1. Use 1st Opener (start of fight).
    2. Use 2nd Opener (start of fight).
    3. Use Electrified Builder till you reach 5 Electrified stacks.
    4. Use Electrified Consumer to consume your Electrified stacks and repeat from step 3.
    • Every time you perform step 4, before returning to step 3 check if Static Flux is off cooldown or if Storm Locus has ran out. If yes, use 1st Opener and then step 4 again. After that, you can proceed back to step 3.
    • Keep an eye on Fire Storm. When it runs out, refresh it with the 2nd Opener.
    On kalert add-on, I watch for Storm Locus debuff, Static Flux buff and Neural Prod, which I personally use as reference to estimate the Fire Storm timer (losing some dps there since Prod is 20 sec and Storm 30 sec). Of course, main thing to watch for are the Electrified stacks.

    That's pretty much how I use my spec. I know it has its flaws and if someone out there can improve it, I'd be glad to hear their discoveries. Whoever uses this spec, I hope it serves you well. Stormcaller really is fun.
    Last edited by Dragate; 04-17-2019 at 07:07 AM. Reason: Re-formatting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragate View Post
    On kalert, I watch for storm locus debuff, static flux buff and neural prod (i use that as reference to track fire storm, losing some dps there since prod 20 sec and storm 30 sec). Ofc, main thing to watch are the electrified stacks.
    Can use bamul's firestorm addon to track it

    I was playing 61 SC with a lot of stuff (( Locus, LS, Galvanic, then a cooldown, builder, spender, Raging, Thunder ))
    - Builder: LIC (buffs hailstorm, LLA), All builders ~ abuse Perfect Storm bug
    - Consumer: just LLA, LF
    - Cooldown: Gathering, PS, then consumers
    - Raging: not in macro because the PS bug can clip it
    - Thunder Shock to get eternal stacks where you want them ~ before LLA.

    It is easy to play.
    Last edited by notawaifu; 10-06-2017 at 08:48 PM.

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    I had tried 61 SC but didn't work out too well for me. 61 SC would mean that I would have to give up LFS + Countdown (with the smolder perk). Galvanic is a great addition (for anyone that has the soul). Passive of LPS is hard to pass up, it's a great boost. But as LPS was bugged I wanted to avoid it (since I assumed such bugs are to be fixed within weeks, but boy was I wrong). Still it didn't provide much more dps, LFS compensated. I avoided L Gathering Storm cause it added unpredictability to my rotation. Mana and Charge (cause of LIC) you don't need. Stacks you do, but I was used to with how many clicks on Builder macro I would get 5 stacks, Gathering Storm ruined that cause sometimes I had to click less, so I had to watch closer. This might be one of those details that will increase dps, but I don't pay attention to. If you don't mind me asking, what was your sustained aoe dps with 61 SC?

    By the way, I see that the new mage soul seems to be the best AOE Soul. Currently (in PTS) it does almost like 2x the dps we are discussing here.
    Last edited by Dragate; 10-06-2017 at 11:32 PM.

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    your spec does 2.2m for me. 61 SC only does 1.9m for me. Yours is still better

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    With your macros I do ~ 3m DPS. I'm surprised that the damage from Charged Field is so low. Previously (Level 65), this was the ability with the most dps. Maybe Charged Field does not scale properly with level 70?

    I renew Firestorm every 20 seconds with Neural Prod but the stacks of Neural Prod are consumed so quickly which can not be used in a controlled manner. I think i will try Legendary Galvanic Strike at my next tests.

    With 61 SC I did not get any good results, maybe I give him another try.

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    Default with Mystic Archer.

    If you looking for AE spec for Basion of steel 2nd boss

    Mystic Archer will be good choice

    Macro 1 - Spam

    #show Flash Fire
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Static Flux
    cast Internalize Charge
    cast @self Arcane Manipulation
    cast Earthen Sunder
    cast Flash Fire
    cast @gtae Hailstorm
    cast Arcane Shot
    cast Gathering Storm
    cast Break Free
    cast Fading Light

    Macro 2 - for Ground target spell need to stay near of AE target

    #show Shock Dispersal
    tar <yourname>
    cast @gtae Shock Dispersal
    targetlasttarget

    Shock Dispersal spell won't make Arrow effect If you use on your target inside of AE
    so you need to cast manually or you cast with this macro and keep staying near
    you need to write your name as "tar bamul"

    Macro 3 - Fire storm

    #show Fire Storm
    cast @gtae Fire Storm

    this spec is almost 1 button, and good dps

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ttjwus5I8Mw&t
    Last edited by Skidrow; 10-07-2017 at 05:34 AM.

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    i was chilling in my dimension and found a spec around 5 million + , with mystic archer inside
    is there an other spec pulling more ?
    AoE Spec-2018-02-03_162135.jpg

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