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    Default Harbinger help!

    Hi all.

    I need help with harbinger spec. I don't know why but it's doing less damage than a necro does. It's weird and I don't get why. I followed the spec from the 4.0 harbinger guide on the Rift forums. I copied the spec talents and made the macros. The main issue is the spam macro.. It's not doing much at all and I need some guidance on it. This is the macro I use:

    #show vorpal slash
    suppressmacrofailures
    stopcasting
    cast [notactive] charged blade
    cast Vorpal Slash
    cast Storm's Fury
    cast Vengeful Shock
    cast Introspection
    cast conditioned response
    cast glacial spike
    cast withering vine

    When the button cycles through, I get to a point where I seem to only poke them for 200 damage. It's frustrating due to the fact that my Stormcaller build is massively more powerful than the Harbinger spec. Spec is: Harbinger 45/Chloro 9/Arbiter 5

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    http://forums.riftgame.com/game-disc...dps-guide.html

    That's the guide I followed for both spec and macros.

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    #show vorpal slash
    suppressmacrofailures
    stopcasting
    cast [notactive] charged blade
    cast Vorpal Slash
    cast Storm's Fury
    cast Storm Slash
    cast Vengeful Shock
    cast Introspection
    cast conditioned response
    cast glacial spike
    cast withering vine
    Last edited by Gilgad; 04-24-2017 at 10:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hindhaughlee View Post
    Spec is: Harbinger 45/Chloro 9/Arbiter 5
    I guess you're not level 70 yet. If this is true look at this leveling as a Harbinger guide:

    http://forums.riftgame.com/game-disc...harbinger.html

    Only important note Lifegiving Veil has been changed. You now do 50% less damage if you have the buff active. So use the buff only if you need healing.

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    Also be careful when copying macros that contain apostrophes.
    It's often safer to type Storm's Fury in game yourself.
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    Default Argh

    Even with the extra dps from Storm Lash, I am still doing really bad damage. So i'll try and explain as best I can:

    Buffs I keep up (Eldritch Armor, Aqueous Blessing, Reaper Blade and Charged Blade)

    Start of fight: Blade Rush, Piercing Beam, Blazing Light, Spam Macro (See above posts).

    With this I get between 800-1000 dps however with my Stormcaller build I get double that around 1700-2000 dps fighting the same mobs. If things don't improve, I will dump Harbinger and look into speccing something else.

    Me vs a mob in Stillmoor - Harbinger 767 dps vs Stormcaller 2210
    second mob harbinger 878 dps vs Stormcaller 2109
    third mob harbinger 1007 vs Stormcaller 1980
    Last edited by hindhaughlee; 04-25-2017 at 10:00 AM.

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    After adding icicle as an opener, baring in mind I am only level 46, I managed 5-7k initial burst. It then drops off to around 2-4k depending on the mob. So my Stormcaller build is boring with only 2-3 attack abilities but it can do very high burst damage initially. Not many specs I've fiddled with comes close to it.

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    Harbinger/Chloro/Arb is only with the Legenderies so strong which you get from Level 66-70. Before that, other Harbinger combinations with Stormcaller and Elementalist offsouls are better.
    https://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree#hd/S8BkgGIElh0/gwa8
    Spoiler!


    But if you need more healing chloro as offsoul is a good choice.
    http://forums.riftgame.com/game-disc...harbinger.html

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    That's great. Thanks. I will give that a try

    Use the standard harb buffs? What would be the rotation?

    Proc > Spam or Spam > Proc

    When do you use Proc ect
    Last edited by hindhaughlee; 04-25-2017 at 12:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hindhaughlee View Post
    That's great. Thanks. I will give that a try

    Use the standard harb buffs? What would be the rotation?

    Proc > Spam or Spam > Proc

    When do you use Proc ect
    Read the Guide here

    The only difference is that you can not use Rending Slash (needs 54 points in harbinger) in your macro, so you use Storm Slash

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