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Thread: Reclaim Elements now only heals you for 25% of your Maximum HP in PVP.

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    Default Reclaim Elements now only heals you for 25% of your Maximum HP in PVP.

    Well Trion really encouraging mages in PVP. They cut it by 75%. Not to 50%. We are cloth and only have a paltry one CC .. ICY Gale a knock back. You die very quickly. Thanks Trion ..well thought out not!

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    The nerf is fine.

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    Nerf was needed.

    Hopefully diffuse on ranger will be changed to function the same for consistency.
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    try playing it without the trinket and t3 weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMo1 View Post
    try playing it without the trinket and t3 weapon.
    I did.

    It needed the nerf.
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    it needed to be made to work more like diffuse where the hp of the pet matters, if your pet is half dead then u get half its hp if 10 percent then the same.

    some actual though into balancing abilities.

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    Not to 25%. Should have been 50%. I doubt very much the Devs play it in PVP. It should be on par with Rogues. Maybe they don't want ele in PVP. We are cloth and only have one cc ..a knock back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMo1 View Post
    It should be on par with Rogues.
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    We have people who don't play the spec or go around with their pet healers. Some of us do not have pet healers and know what is happening. Devs please listen and not to those who want the demise of everything but their own spec. We are cloth and not leather. There is no survival or give us a proper CC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMo1 View Post
    We are cloth...
    you keep saying this like it actually means something in Rift pvp.
    why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMo1 View Post
    We are cloth and not leather. There is no survival or give us a proper CC.
    Cloth has on average ~10% less armor than an equivalent leather piece. That means you take ~1.5% more physical damage than a Rogue. So for every 1000 physical damage someone wearing leather takes, you would take 1015.

    15 damage. If you want to scale that to a players 85k - 100k health pool you would take 1275 - 1500 more damage from the same physical attacks. That's less than a single Ice Zerker proc. That is less than the difference between a single attack being a critical or not.

    Armor has nothing to do with spell/non-physical damage, and every calling has similar resists as those values are gained from essences/accessories, not armor.

    So overall the fact Mages wear cloth has a minuscule affect on PvP.

    If you are really that concerned about Ele's survival you could use Conduit with the Earth Elemental which grants you a flat 15% incoming damage reduction. And the Water Elemental has a debilitate on a 30s cd. I mean I wouldn't do it but those options are there.

    Either way there's no reason a dps soul should be running around with a 100% heal on a 1m cd. JP was nerfed to 25%, TT was nerfed to 25%.
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    From what I've seen recently, Elementalists are doing rather well in the warfronts. They've certainly topped the damage chart I'm more than one warfront I've played in.

    Being able to heal even 50% of one's health with one CD is ridiculous. I can't even do that on my Chloro/FK with Essence Surge.

    A 25% heal should be enough to at least escape a tight spot and make it back to a real healer.

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    But rogues can...bring down rogues to the 25% level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMo1 View Post
    But rogues can...bring down rogues to the 25% level.
    Just out of curiosity what can Rogues do? What needs to change?
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