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    Default 61 Harb - Macros?

    So I've been hitting the dummies with 61 Harb recently, and I usually find it falling well short of Pyrobinger (Even 44/32). There are no guides on the spec and I've found little discussion of it on the forums.

    My question is, for the filler/spam macro in between refreshes of Blazing, Piercing and Eldritch's
    procs, should I macro Vorpal Slash or treat it as a dot which I only apply once it's over at an opportune moment?

    This is my spam macro - pulled from Ahov's guide, but took out FB and CD

    #show Storm's Fury
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Vorpal Slash
    cast Storm's Fury
    cast Rending Slash
    cast Vengeful Shock

    Also, not quite sure how to utilise EA properly... Again, I've taken the macro from Ahov's guide:

    #show Empyrean Ascension
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Empyrean Ascension
    cast Storm Nova
    cast Dancing Limbs
    cast Energy Beam
    cast Shocking Touch

    However, on the same thread, I saw someone say that this isn't optimal... without saying what IS! (Dancing Limbs higher in prio?)

    If anyone could, in general, share some tips on the spec, or just help with my queries I'd be grateful, as I just want to min max.

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    Thats how i run:

    #show Vorpal Slash
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast [notactive] Charged Blade
    cast Vorpal Slash
    cast Storm's Fury
    cast Rending Slash
    cast Flame Bolt
    cast Blazing Light
    cast Break Free

    #show empyrean ascension
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast empyrean ascension
    cast storm nova
    cast energy beam
    cast dancing limbs
    cast vorpal slash
    cast storm's fury
    cast shocking touch

    General rule is - keep Vorpal Slash dot, Piercing Beam, 3 stacks of Rending Slash and Blazing Light up at all times, spam rest of skills, time Empyrean Ascension with raid cooldowns if possible, otherwise use on cooldown aswell. Keep refreshing stuff during it aswell. Use Phantom Blades on disconnects (great utility skill). Not much to minmax in this spec really.
    Last edited by radiomaryja; 02-20-2013 at 08:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radiomaryja View Post
    General rule is - keep Vorpal Slash dot, Piercing Beam, 3 stacks of Rending Slash and Blazing Light up at all times, spam rest of skills, time Empyrean Ascension with raid cooldowns if possible, otherwise use on cooldown aswell. Keep refreshing stuff during it aswell. Use Phantom Blades on disconnects (great utility skill). Not much to minmax in this spec really.
    Refreshing Blazing Light during Empyrean Ascension is actually a dps loss.
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    Hmm, would think so, still I do it to keep the dot and dont have to recast it later for 1.5 sec gcd. Fair enough.

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    isn't vorpal in empyrean ascension macro dps loss as well? pretty sure empyrean spammable hits harder than vorpal and it's dot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tteen6789 View Post
    isn't vorpal in empyrean ascension macro dps loss as well? pretty sure empyrean spammable hits harder than vorpal and it's dot.
    Crystal buff comes from maintaining Vorpal.
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    200 damage to slashing attacks. thought empyrean ascension attacks arent slashing attacks?

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    What about Tempest winds, worth using during Ascension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaCommando View Post
    Refreshing Blazing Light during Empyrean Ascension is actually a dps loss.
    Nice joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZevLupus View Post
    What about Tempest winds, worth using during Ascension?
    Yes it is. I usually use it on CD regardless.

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    Nice joke.
    Actually, test it out.. Use ACT and check the numbers and let me know! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaCommando View Post
    Actually, test it out.. Use ACT and check the numbers and let me know! :P
    I already let you know :P the "nice joke" comment was meant to be saying, "yes it is worth it"

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    Just some quick points I've found on what's been said above before I copy paste my maths...
    I generally try to keep blazing light up during transform, as it does cost you if you have to hard cast it again later. You're effectively getting an 11k damage hit in 1 second, which is actually more than a single shocking touch (9800)

    EA attacks are slashing... in the fact that they do benefit from Charged Blade.

    Tempest Winds is a DPS loss while transformed.

    You shouldn't have Vorpal Slash in your transform macro.


    I did this maths on the 61Harb about 2 weeks ago so numbers should still be relevant.


    61 Harb 8 Pyro 7 Ele

    Countdown 4010 (+5% dam per combust stack)
    Flame Bolt 4221

    Fireball 2909 (+10% chance to crit)
    iFireball 13382 (+10% chance to crit)

    Lightning Strike 4631 (+10% chance to crit)
    iLightning Strike 23156 (+10% chance to crit)

    Blade Rush 2733
    Blazing Light 5629

    Slashes (+11% damage)
    Vorpal Slash 8802 (9770)
    Tempest Winds 7654 (8496)
    Piercing Beam 4247 (4714)
    Lucent Slash 4779 (5305)
    Rending Slash 5838 (6480)
    Storm Slash 5307 (5891)
    Storm's Fury 8174 (9073)
    Shocking Touch 8867 (9842)
    Dancing Limbs 17105 (18987)
    Storm Nova 25331 (28117)
    Energy Beam 16212 (17995)

    (note slash damage was calc'd with Charged Blade up.)

    In order
    Storm Nova 28117
    iLightning Strike 23156 (+10% chance to crit)
    Dancing Limbs 18987
    Energy Beam 17995
    iFireball 13382 (+10% chance to crit)
    Shocking Touch 9842
    Vorpal Slash 9770
    Storm's Fury 9073
    Tempest Winds 8496
    Rending Slash 6480
    Storm Slash 5891
    Blazing Light 5629
    Lucent Slash 5305
    Piercing Beam 4714
    Lightning Strike 4631 (+10% chance to crit)
    Flame Bolt 4221
    Countdown 4010 (+5% dam per combust stack)
    Fireball 2909 (+10% chance to crit)
    Blade Rush 2733


    Keep Blazing Light up and refresh it with Lucy Slash
    Flame Bolt and Countdown are useless so don't bother watching your combust stacks.
    Although Countdown could be used at range, if your Phantom Blades is on cooldown and you've already cast Blazing Light.

    Tempest Winds should be used on cooldown (except while transformed), preferably straight after using an eldritch proc. Make sure you get the final tick! I'm still finding it hard to judge when you can cast again, so I'm still leaving it longer than I probably should.

    Empyrean Ascension should be used on cooldown with the following macro:
    Code:
    #show Empyrean Ascension
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Empyrean Ascension
    cast Storm Nova
    cast Dancing Limbs
    cast Energy Beam
    cast Shocking Touch
    cast Blazing Light
    cast [notactive] charged blade
    While you're transformed, make sure to keep up Piercing Beam and 3 stacks of Rending Slash. Don't bother with Tempest Winds while transformed. Your eldritch armor procs should also be used... especially if it's going to be a Lightning Strike... Fireball is debatable as 0.5 seconds can be quite hard to react to and you're probably losing most of this time saved to lag.

    One thing I never used to do was watch my rending slash stacks... they'll stay fairly high using the ST macro below, but you might accidentally let them drop while you're Winding or Ascending so make a karuul for it.

    ST Macro
    Code:
    #show Vorpal Slash
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Vorpal Slash
    cast Storm's Fury
    cast Rending Slash
    cast Ruin
    cast Storm Slash
    cast Blazing Light
    cast Vengeful Shock
    cast [notactive] Charged Blade
    Mine has ruin and Storm Slash in there because it's also for my ChloroHarb
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    Hmmmm, I did actually forget about the crystal buff with Vorpal Slash. Does anyone know just how much extra damage that gives to slashing attacks? If it's more than say about 15%, then you probably want to keep it up while transformed too.
    Last edited by Archyface; 02-20-2013 at 07:54 PM.
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    Is it worth it to have Elemental Forces at the top of the macros?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zunn View Post
    Is it worth it to have Elemental Forces at the top of the macros?
    Elemental Forces is rather crap in any build as there are much better things to spend your charge on. In this case, you need it for charged blade.
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