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    Default Iam so Sad, Mages wake up!

    Am i the only one having problems with 44MM/22RS, NB/RS and assassin Rogues?

    Most of the time when iam on my mage iam doing quite fine in PvP despite that mage calling got nerfed to oblivion thru all patches but when i run into rogues specced in those builds above i die 99% of the times if equal geared (even if the player is good or not, most of the times don't matter).

    First scenario is when i run into a NB/RS, he open from stealth start dpsing me like crazy port etc, iam instantly flicker to get some breathing room squirell and trying to lay on my spells and debuffs before he closes to me (takes only a sec then the port to me again) trying to dps him with fireball while he eat my hp they hit for very little on him, realize that he havent even used his defensive CDs yet and iam already at 35% hp so trying to get away, apply a stun (immune) Flicker away again, he ports after with speed buff 50%, trying to squirell him and root him with stormshackle (immune to the root ability) comes after iam dead.

    Every single time i run into an equal geared Rogue even when iam in Chloro/dom they can kill me (will just be harder, but they do and our purge SUCKS)

    With assassin it's another story, he opens from stealth applies his bleeds, slip away and then finish me off. i die 100& of the times


    With 44MM/22RS no CC works whatsoever, i throw everything i have at him takes down his hp to 30-40% he ports like crazy while i do soo, then he run away superfast and comes back while at 35m range and finish me off.



    Everytime i Run into these builds it makes me wanna log forever and unsub, PvP is not fun anymore if u aren't behind a wall of warriors and clerics, if u run into these things alone u end up dieing.

    And many times even with some clerics nearby they put maybe 1dps at him so he can't heal me, and then kill me off. my dmg is crap on those builds which stack RS soul and they seem to be able to tank everything, and iam unable to CC them thx to their CC breaks.

    I feel that For Mages to keep up we have to QQ and demand more things, it seems that PvP isn't something you play in game. It seems PvP is something that have become some thing you "do" on the forums in able to be viable in game.

    Sure Bleeds post his edited premade team videos when he pawns like crazy, those aren't helping us at all. Those videos just make us seem OP and will call for more nerfs to our calling, we wear weaker armor then the rogues and still their survivability and their burst is waaay OVER ours.

    I don't feel like a mage when builds like those mention above can completly shut me down, aim not able to CC, iam not able to run away, and my dmg is crappy beacouse they run in full valor sets+ an 100% uptime 17.5%dmg absorving shield while putting out heavy burst themselfes.

    I see more and more people making posts about put our squirell on a CD along with nerfing Mana wrench and nerf our dmg further etc. We all know trion does not do any kind of testing before the unleash their patches, beacouse then we wouldn't had have any problems with any class beeing OP in this game.
    So iam pretty sure more nerfs are inc for our class if we don't fight back.


    In my 2 year PvP time in Aion i had to deal with the owerpowered Rogue Rangers all the time with passive stuns and sick burst, but then atleast i many times was able to CC them and acually do some SICK burst to them to punish them back, my 2sec cast spells did atleast do someething to their HP.

    But most important, i could rely on my CC abilities wich i had. They acually ment something more then a 50% cast time speed buff....


    Iam so frustrated, i see less less activity from mage community on this forum for every day that passes, i feel that iam not able to fight back to all the Rogue and warrior trolls as it is now.

    I guess most of the mages already unsubbed, i guess i should do the same if this keeps continues...
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    stop trolling all the class forums, and crying for nerfs to everything.
    You cried incessantly about VK too, anything that provides a challenge to you you bicker and cry nonstop.
    Seriously, grow up.

    the good mages are still good. stop being bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batou079 View Post
    stop trolling all the class forums, and crying for nerfs to everything.
    You cried incessantly about VK too, anything that provides a challenge to you you bicker and cry nonstop.
    Seriously, grow up.

    the good mages are still good. stop being bad.
    I just pointing out my view, if you can't handle that close your eyes or just ****.

    You know nothing about the current mage PvP state, so you should just go back to bed kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftspell View Post
    I just pointing out my view, if you can't handle that close your eyes or just ****.

    You know nothing about the current mage PvP state, so you should just go back to bed kid.
    From that response, like i said, grow up.

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    Ni dont have problem with NB/RS or MM/RS or Sin rogues.
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    Im here for the PvE, not the unbalanced subpar PvP.
    Just Waiting...

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    Click name. Press profile. Click add to ignore.

    This is not directed at any one player but merely a tip for improved forum experience.
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    Ive not had any particular problem dealing with rogues in general, deal with them quite easily actually, however when they have a dedicated healer things change, but that can be said for any class.

    i would say bar the chloro spec | our pvp state is just fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayko View Post
    Click name. Press profile. Click add to ignore.

    This is not directed at any one player but merely a tip for improved forum experience.
    Iam talking about PvP here, now run back to HK with you.

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    Nerf mages

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    Quote Originally Posted by batou079 View Post
    From that response, like i said, grow up.
    Ye, ofc beacouse u are so mature come into other class forums trolling and trying to sound smart and "mature". I seriously dont care about u atall unless you play a rank 8 mage and have played this game since beta PvP only every single day. Wich u havent, so be quiet plz, the forums are full of kids like you QQ for buffs.
    Atleast iam only QQ about owerpowered classes, and that my CC abilities means nothing now.
    I want to rely on ALL my CC ablilities ALL the time, not beeing able to CC "sometimes" just beacouse i got lucky.

    CC is important to me, and i want it to work...
    Last edited by Swiftspell; 02-07-2012 at 02:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftspell View Post
    Ye, ofc beacouse u are so mature come into other class forums trolling and trying to sound smart and "mature". I seriously dont care about u atall unless you play a rank 8 mage and have played this game since beta PvP only every single day. Wich u havent, so be quiet plz, the forums are full of kids like you QQ for buffs.
    Atleast iam only QQ about owerpowered classes, and that my CC abilities means nothing now.
    I want to rely on ALL my CC ablilities ALL the time, not beeing able to CC "sometimes" just beacouse i got lucky.

    CC is important to me, and i want it to work...
    Nerf Mages INTO THE GROUND!!!!

    Just kidding, this topic is dumb so I felt like being dumb :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isz View Post
    Nerf Mages INTO THE GROUND!!!!

    Just kidding, this topic is dumb so I felt like being dumb :P
    Iam not looking thru my fingers with anything when it comes to the topic, iam pointing out real facts and if you think it's dumb wait a few patches, and then maybe even you finally open your eyes...

    But that really doesn't matter, the reason to play a game is to enjoy it.
    The reason I still play Rift is beacouse it has a Mage calling and is a game wich people hacking is very rare. But when i can't enjoy playing the only calling i like beacouse it been nerfed into the ground and that CC is totally broken while we have Super OP classes like Rogues in build specced with RS running around and people Claim they are ballanced (wich they ARE NOT, i Play one maxgeared so don't bullshiet me) then i see no reason to longer play this game.

    I don't enjoy it anymore as a Mage in PvP, Pyro/Dom is BOORING and thats the only thing we got atm. And the Doms and the Pyros CC abilities don't work that often, and dimishing returns also SUUCKS and shouldn't ever have been implemented in a game wich have so much CC break as Rift.

    The only reason people squirell is mostly for the 50% cast speed buff, wich we need beacouse pyros 2sec cast time fireball spell has to LONG CAST time normally it should be flat out 1sec cast time and mages should also have the Spark ability permanent too.

    Game Over, maybe i should try some WoW until GW2 is out. Heard the mage class they have there acually ARE MAGES silly world we live in.

    This game is dead in 1 year anyway, so better move on to something more promising like GW2 and tera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftspell View Post
    Iam not looking thru my fingers with anything when it comes to the topic, iam pointing out real facts and if you think it's dumb wait a few patches, and then maybe even you finally open your eyes...

    But that really doesn't matter, the reason to play a game is to enjoy it.
    The reason I still play Rift is beacouse it has a Mage calling and is a game wich people hacking is very rare. But when i can't enjoy playing the only calling i like beacouse it been nerfed into the ground and that CC is totally broken while we have Super OP classes like Rogues in build specced with RS running around and people Claim they are ballanced (wich they ARE NOT, i Play one maxgeared so don't bullshiet me) then i see no reason to longer play this game.

    I don't enjoy it anymore as a Mage in PvP, Pyro/Dom is BOORING and thats the only thing we got atm. And the Doms and the Pyros CC abilities don't work that often, and dimishing returns also SUUCKS and shouldn't ever have been implemented in a game wich have so much CC break as Rift.

    The only reason people squirell is mostly for the 50% cast speed buff, wich we need beacouse pyros 2sec cast time fireball spell has to LONG CAST time normally it should be flat out 1sec cast time and mages should also have the Spark ability permanent too.

    Game Over, maybe i should try some WoW until GW2 is out. Heard the mage class they have there acually ARE MAGES silly world we live in.

    This game is dead in 1 year anyway, so better move on to something more promising like GW2 and tera.
    Then leave, except you won't because you like the forums better than playing the game.

    Haters gonna hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftspell View Post
    Ye, ofc beacouse u are so mature come into other class forums trolling and trying to sound smart and "mature". I seriously dont care about u atall unless you play a rank 8 mage and have played this game since beta PvP only every single day. Wich u havent, so be quiet plz, the forums are full of kids like you QQ for buffs.
    Atleast iam only QQ about owerpowered classes, and that my CC abilities means nothing now.
    I want to rely on ALL my CC ablilities ALL the time, not beeing able to CC "sometimes" just beacouse i got lucky.

    CC is important to me, and i want it to work...
    Let me re-iterate... just like the last post you made, this one shows it even more... grow up.

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    @OP TL DR....anyways rogues are our counter class.....they are supposed to chop us up, most of the time they dont do it anyways so who cares


    and lol @ pyro/dom or chlor/dom being our only "viable" pvp builds...thats probably why you lose so much
    it is not enough these days to question authority, you gotta speak with it too

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