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Thread: 15WL or 10Dom with 4pc HK Chloro crystal?

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    Default 15WL or 10Dom with 4pc HK Chloro crystal?

    What would you say is a better secondary soul for a 51 point Chloromancer with 4+ HK armour pieces?

    15 Warlock gets you 25% faster charge regen, Opportunity, 10% more HP and Sacrifice Life.
    10 Dominator gets you 10% more Intelligence, plus some other random crap that most Chloros will never use.

    The question is whether that 10% extra Intelligence is worth the loss of 10% exta HP and Opportunity?

    What do you think?

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    i personally go with 10 lock 5 ele

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    The only real reason to ever use Lock is for instant-cast NT procs, really. Considering you get that with 4pc HK crystal, I would vote 10Dom/5Ele.
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    Actually, the Dom is more for interrupt and reflect.... the 10% int is worse than it sounds in that you probably will be soft crit capped and only get the SP bonus, which is ok (assuming 800 int... you get 40 SP).

    Don't rule out 12 archon though.... power drain is awesome at reducing raid dmg at crucial times, making your life as a healer slightly easier. Your 51 archon will be using that too, but the more the merrier (they don't stack, just less down time). This is good in 10 mans when you might not have an archon.

    Another one to consider is 11 pyro for flicker where boss mechanics can be a pain. The no push back unfortunately is a little redundant if you already have 4 pc HK chloro crystal. You do get glyph of power though.

    If you're just going for straight out HPS numbers though, I would either go 6 pyro or 6 lock (for glyph or sac life mana/+ more charge for entropic) and the rest in ele for crit and more survivability.
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    11 pyro/4 ele or 9dom/6pyro imo. Get your archon to use arresting presence.
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    Much as I'd like to maximize my HPS, I'm afraid that if I get rid of my current 15lock 0archon, my HP would drop dramatically. Right now I have 7.8k with my water resist sigil, Neddra's Strength and Searing Vitality, and go up to ~8.5k with all raid buffs.

    In what is probably the most effective HPS build (11ele 6 pyro) I'll have considerably less HP, and we all know that you can't heal anyone when you're dead.

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    0 Archon beats any 5 Soul-X
    Hence 15 Pyro.

    Exception: Dom till Arresting Prensence for those fights where you need it, and your Archon can't be arsed (but it's usually his job).

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    well if you have 4pc and HK crystal then opportunity makes no sense in having
    next week when i get my 4th piece i'm putting points from lock to dominator some into intelligence talent
    more int more SP and more endurance also

    and in 1.7 we'll be getting that degeneration talent thats quite nice

    but thats just my opinion

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    The only truly bad choices are necromancer or stormcaller.

    Even then an argument can be made as to why SC can be useful to a 51pt chloro. Just not a very good one.

    One additional suggestion:

    15pt archon 0pt archmage for break free.

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    Lock for increased charge is meh, because with 51 point chloro, your primary cast is Void Life and (not sure if it is intended) the increased charge generation does not affect Void Life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgw View Post
    0 Archon beats any 5 Soul-X
    Hence 15 Pyro.

    Exception: Dom till Arresting Prensence for those fights where you need it, and your Archon can't be arsed (but it's usually his job).
    Agree^

    Flicker, used correctly, can be awesome on a number of fights. Not to mention the crit boost from Burning Fury. The Pushback Resistance and Cast Speed don't really help 51 Chloro, faster rez's I guess, but still Pyro is the new Lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedot View Post
    Pyro is the new Lock.
    Will that still be so in 1.7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElusiveJones View Post
    11 pyro/4 ele or 9dom/6pyro imo. Get your archon to use arresting presence.
    What he says My archon runs the arresting presence interupt utility thing ;)
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    You folks do realise that 0 Archon >> 4 Ele ?

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    Depends on what you mean by better, 5 Ele is > 0 Arch when you are at the soft cap for crit since the % talents still apply. And if you have the HK gear to have a 4 piece.. you are going to be at the soft cap for crit.

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