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    Default Defile/Soul Purge in 1.5

    With the coming changes in patch 1.5 and the addition of the T3 synergy crystals, which would "better" in terms of dps; the Defilelock or Purgelock, and which crystal gives the biggest bang for its buck, the Necromancer crystal or Warlock crystal?

    Additionally, is it still worth it to keep up Soul Purge in a Defilelock rotation in 1.5? Should I just stick to VB as the filler?

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    38/28 'Defile' build when paired with the 4 point talent of the Warlock crystal will be the best combination in terms of warlock/necromancer tree pairings.
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    How about in terms of T3? I'm not really geared enough for HK just yet, and the Soul Purge use in a Defile build has been bothering me for some time.

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    From a T1 perspective the Necromancer crystal, from my cursory glance and speed math in my head, will be better. 75 sp > ~250 crit on DoTs.

    The status quo will most likely stay with Lichlock being superior dps to Defilelock but slightly less mobile.
    Last edited by Primalthirst; 09-28-2011 at 02:53 AM.
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalthirst View Post
    From a T1 perspective the Necromancer crystal, from my cursory glance and speed math in my head, will be better. 75 sp > ~250 crit on DoTs.

    The status quo will most likely stay with Lichlock being superior dps to Defilelock but slightly less mobile.
    Always thought defile lock was better than lich lock...

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    What about Soul Purge's effectiveness in a defilelock build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordofBones View Post
    What about Soul Purge's effectiveness in a defilelock build?
    More effective but needs better timing and cant be spammed as much.
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    Lichlock is higher dps than Defilelock but gets more of it's damage from Soul Purge and less from DoTs.
    So it's inferior on high movement fights.

    With 1.5 I expect we will find Pyro with Crystal will be superior on moderate movement fights over Necrolock, until 4pc when Defilelock will go ape****.

    SC will still top everything.
    Last edited by Primalthirst; 09-28-2011 at 06:53 AM.
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pricia View Post
    Always thought defile lock was better than lich lock...
    A lot of that had to do with Defile being bugged, and not ticking on it's last tick. We'll see where the fix sets it at.

    Personally, I would say the Lock crystal > Necro. 75sp is a fair amount, but not quite enough to give you a super substantial jump in dps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korain View Post
    A lot of that had to do with Defile being bugged, and not ticking on it's last tick. We'll see where the fix sets it at.

    Personally, I would say the Lock crystal > Necro. 75sp is a fair amount, but not quite enough to give you a super substantial jump in dps.
    But the lock crystal is only 10% crit chance on DoTs, which is ~260 crit rating which would be roughly equal to 75Sp if Defilelock got all it's damage from DoTs, alas a fair amount comes from Void Bolt, which makes the Necro crystal better.
    Nope.

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    Soul Purge is considered to be a DoT - it's effected by Neddra's Influence (bonus DoT damage per point spent in Warlock tree) and the synergy crystal that adds 10% higher crit rating for DoTs.
    Last edited by Dandai; 09-28-2011 at 07:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandai View Post
    Soul Purge is considered to be a DoT - it's effected by Neddra's Influence (bonus DoT damage per point spent in Warlock tree) and the synergy crystal that adds 10% higher crit rating for DoTs.
    I am not quite sure I agree with that...anyway to prove this, maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korain View Post
    I am not quite sure I agree with that...anyway to prove this, maybe?
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    Defile lock is for mobile encounters.
    Lich lock is for static.
    Since in 1.5 pyro will be like 100500 times better on those, you arent about to see many lich forms in your raids.
    Lich lock is ok in that you can use the same build for pvp and pve, though its pvp use is limited. Good for clearing the cathedral on scion though.

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