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Thread: months without play and .... PVP-Pyro = dead

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    Rift Chaser RamasSokehur's Avatar
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    Default months without play and .... PVP-Pyro = dead

    Holy jesus!! what happened i just logged and i see that pyro got *****!


    any one have ANY suggestion of mage builds for pvp?
    No Illegals -> NO BURRITOS!! THINK TWICE BRO!

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    I will speak the truth , Pyro has always been a horrible spec for PvP. The only reason pyros were getting so many kills was because of

    1 Random Cinderburst criticals
    2 Critical Fulminate every 45 seconds
    + inferno out of the global cd

    What about the core spells of the Pyromancer.

    Fireball needs 2 seconds to cast to hit for....500dmg? Disgusting

    Countdown exploding after "8" seconds?? Burst dmg every 8 seconds ? You serious ?

    Flamebolt dmg far too low. It should be a rly heavy nuke to create spike dmg after fireball lands.

    I can go on and on but nevermind. Just dont bother with Pyro , its quite dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamasSokehur View Post
    Holy jesus!! what happened i just logged and i see that pyro got *****!


    any one have ANY suggestion of mage builds for pvp?
    Dom/chloro is good 34/32. And to the above poster pyro was fine the way it was in 1.1 all that needed to be done was the red ball nerf. The low damage of a fireball was made up by the 3 skills that you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilvereen View Post
    I will speak the truth , Pyro has always been a horrible spec for PvP. The only reason pyros were getting so many kills was because of

    1 Random Cinderburst criticals
    2 Critical Fulminate every 45 seconds
    + inferno out of the global cd

    What about the core spells of the Pyromancer.

    Fireball needs 2 seconds to cast to hit for....500dmg? Disgusting

    Countdown exploding after "8" seconds?? Burst dmg every 8 seconds ? You serious ?

    Flamebolt dmg far too low. It should be a rly heavy nuke to create spike dmg after fireball lands.

    I can go on and on but nevermind. Just dont bother with Pyro , its quite dead.

    70% of what u said didn`t added nothing to what i asked
    but at the end yes, pyro is dead
    No Illegals -> NO BURRITOS!! THINK TWICE BRO!

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    Pyro is literally a dead soul.

    Playing a 51 point Pyro is like pulling teeth. You are no where near being competeive in a premade vs premade WF.

    It can still 1 shot fresh 50s with little to no valor so I guess it's working as intended.

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    outside of heat wave... pyro is bad

    fireball should be a 1.5 second cast seeing as it crits for like 800 on high valor targets

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    ATM My go-to spec for pvp is 31 pyro 31 dom 4 archmage
    My go-to dps spec for pve is 35 pyro 31 elementalist 0 archon

    I play other souls as well but my point is that Pyro is not dead. It's actually better than ever IMO. I perform good with both and with good I mean equally if not better than the other specs. For pvp I want a spec thats mobile, requires fast thinking and offers a flashy playstyle, supplies ways to escape and control but also allows you to put pressure. For pve I want high sustainable dps. I personally like having important 2 minute cooldowns, Flicker is great for mobility and you have proper aoe capabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rift Stinker View Post
    outside of heat wave... pyro is bad

    fireball should be a 1.5 second cast seeing as it crits for like 800 on high valor targets
    i have 901 valor(36%) and fireballs from guys whose gear doesnt suck crit me for around 1k.

    with heatwave up thats 1k per second.

    my soul purge channels 1k crits each second too, and thats not dependent on a 2 min cooldown.

    fireball crits more frequently than SP though.

    after this patch which removed the hp penalty from burning bright, i would be more likely to consider pyro for pvp again, but 4 of my 5 role slots are full of raiding roles, and the 5th is lock/necro/am which blows pyro out of the water atm.

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    You are wrong.

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    Stromcooler is the way to go fosho, 4.5k crits through 1.1k valor ftw.
    what is this I don't even

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    This thread is so full of lies...

    fyi, fireball hits for 1K5 on 1k valor targets (with a r7 geared mage ).

    And if you hit for nothing with Fireball, you'll hit for nothing with Lightning Burst.
    Last edited by Darkhain; 08-15-2011 at 12:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pines View Post
    Stromcooler is the way to go fosho, 4.5k crits through 1.1k valor ftw.
    This is after ~7 seconds of stacking Electrify + Ice Shear + casting the spell.
    I'll get back to you next time I survive 7 seconds in pvp as a stormcaller.
    Nope.

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    It's so sad that the Pyro class has been trashed into complete uselessness in both pve and pvp. It makes me sick to be honest... but then again the entire mage class itself has been nerfed so much that being a mage in Rift would make baby jesus cry.

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    i love pyro, still.

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    So.. if there are still peeps loving pyro and thinking it's viable - why don't you share what you've got? Or aren't we worth the effort?

    I'm thinking about retrying it with optional turret-mode. Which means, getting Improved GoP. Something like 40Pyro/16AM/10WL.

    Should be able to be on the move and hurt and whenever not getting bashed deliver badly with GoP active.

    Thoughts?

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