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    Default Does Pyro Armour work properly?

    Shields the Mage for 1 hour, giving their damaging Fire spells a 10% chance to reset the cooldown of their Cinder Burst ability and reduce the cast time of their next Cinder Burst by 100%. Only 1 Armor may be active at a time.
    From what I have seen it only procs after using fireball. No other damaging fire spell will proc it. Even using fireball, Pyro Armour doesn't come close to procing 10% of the time. While I do get a free instacast Cinder Burst once in a while, it's pretty rare.

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    Nope, it's bugged. It's nowhere near 10%. And sometimes it will stop proccing completely until you recast it.
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    Either it is bugged or there's some kind of internal cooldown on the proc, it sure doesn't seem to proc as much as opportunity.

    It might even be worth testing this with a build that includes both opportunity and pyro armor and see what happens. If there's an ICD, you would expect the proc rate to not change at all despite having two bites at the apple.

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    There is an ICD.

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    Yeah it came to the godly 1.2 patch of pyro-no-more-use-nerf where they introduced ICD because it pwned in pvp. As usual that hurts us in pve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myso View Post
    Yeah it came to the godly 1.2 patch of pyro-no-more-use-nerf where they introduced ICD because it pwned in pvp. As usual that hurts us in pve.
    pyro armor had some sort of ICD long before that

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    In that case, this just seems like bad and redundant design to me.

    They might as well just make cinderburst an instant cast spell with a 30s cooldown or somesuch thing, and find a different purpose for pyro armor. Nobody hardcasts this spell.

    It's rather amazing how Trion is repeating the same sorts of mistakes that WoW made for years with pyroblast, a similar spell.

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    I've actually considered parsing out a variation on pyro/ele that has opportunity because the proc rate on pyro armor is so horrid.
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    Other spells can definitely proc it, just doesn't happen very often as people have said.

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    Hardcasting CB makes sense under heatwave and raid buffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantes View Post
    I've actually considered parsing out a variation on pyro/ele that has opportunity because the proc rate on pyro armor is so horrid.
    Don't think that'd net you many more CB's as it has a 30 second cooldown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halman View Post
    Hardcasting CB makes sense under heatwave and raid buffs.
    nope not even then from what my parsing has shown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halman View Post
    Hardcasting CB makes sense under heatwave and raid buffs.
    No it does not. If you aren't casting fireball, you're doing it wrong. If it procs during heatwave, great, go to town, that's a potential 8-9k dps cast right there, but otherwise, stick to fireballs.

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    Pyromancer's Armor may be broke, but it's still more DPS than Fire Armor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trurl View Post
    Pyromancer's Armor may be broke, but it's still more DPS than Fire Armor.
    Sure enough, but throwing an internal cooldown on a proc reeks of Rube Goldberg design. It's goofy, clunky, and inelegant. It's classic Trion fluff, making something more complicated than it needs be and delivering results that can be done in less steps.

    Cut to the chase here: make cinderburst an instant cast with a cooldown (not hidden, but up front) and do something else with pyro armor.
    Last edited by Flaviusx; 08-09-2011 at 10:55 AM.

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