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    Lightning Burst is the new 44 sc spell, as im sure you all know. At the moment I cant run the PTS as an admin, and can't parse it. I'm just wondering how it compares to lightning field/charged field aoe DPS wise. I know this probably helps ALOT on STDPS, but how is it AOE? It hits for about 2.4k with 1250SP, and crits for a little less than 4K UN-BUFFED.
    I'm positive this spell will wreck in pvp, and be complained about. The other callings will scream for a nerf when we one to two shot 4 different people with this + AB.

    So, question is, anyone parsed it aoe wise compared to LF/CF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Mage View Post
    The other callings will scream for a nerf when we one to two shot 4 different people with this + AB.
    We are mages , we are used to nerfs , no big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilvereen View Post
    We are mages , we are used to nerfs , no big deal.
    I just hope it happens soon so we dont have to put up with the whining that happend with the 1.3 nerfs. :P
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    Actually i dont even think its gonna make it to the live like this. They will surely tone it down before patch day.
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    Yeah don't bother with Stormcaller past 32 points still. Even if LB is good, it'll be gone in the next patch.

    And Eye of the Storm? lol, Eye of the Storm.
    I'm so BORED

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    ANOTHER skill for stormcaller.....thanks but i guarantee 99% of the mages that play this spec would prefer one of two things.

    1. More single target damage to compete with the other callings.

    2. Something to make the rotation needed to play this spec less complex.

    Onto the skill itself -

    It's useless for pve - no one can afford to take the 32 points from Elementalist. 30% crit damage, a more powerful pet, more charge generation and 50% damage for 15 seconds every 2 mins is the tradeoff. For that we gain this new talent and a battle res. No thanks. Even without testing its pretty obvious, but testing shows in its current form its still a dps loss of over 150 single target. And that's if it stays like it is at the moment, because -

    For pvp - its overpowered. Got to say this is very confusing. It's got no cooldown, it hits veryyyy hard on a single target but with a very nice aoe too. Then you can just find another target with 3x electrified and do it again. So Lightning Storm, tab target Lightning Burst will be devastating. (which does work by the way as using lightning burst only takes the electrified stacks from the person you cast it on).

    Thoughts from Trion would be good on this issue, but doubt we'll get any and it'll probably just remain untouched until live, by which point everyone in pvp will complain and mages will receive further nerfs related to pvp that directly affect our pve game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste59w View Post
    ANOTHER skill for stormcaller.....thanks but i guarantee 99% of the mages that play this spec would prefer one of two things.

    1. More single target damage to compete with the other callings.

    2. Something to make the rotation needed to play this spec less complex.

    Onto the skill itself -

    It's useless for pve - no one can afford to take the 32 points from Elementalist. 30% crit damage, a more powerful pet, more charge generation and 50% damage for 15 seconds every 2 mins is the tradeoff. For that we gain this new talent and a battle res. No thanks. Even without testing its pretty obvious, but testing shows in its current form its still a dps loss of over 150 single target. And that's if it stays like it is at the moment, because -

    For pvp - its overpowered. Got to say this is very confusing. It's got no cooldown, it hits veryyyy hard on a single target but with a very nice aoe too. Then you can just find another target with 3x electrified and do it again. So Lightning Storm, tab target Lightning Burst will be devastating. (which does work by the way as using lightning burst only takes the electrified stacks from the person you cast it on).

    Thoughts from Trion would be good on this issue, but doubt we'll get any and it'll probably just remain untouched until live, by which point everyone in pvp will complain and mages will receive further nerfs related to pvp that directly affect our pve game.
    Didn't even take the skills from ele into consideration.

    Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste59w View Post
    Thoughts from Trion would be good on this issue, but doubt we'll get any and it'll probably just remain untouched until live, by which point everyone in pvp will complain and mages will receive further nerfs related to pvp that directly affect our pve game.
    Well no, not quite. As you said yourself, the LB skill is not worth it for PvE players due to the loss of enhanced utility from other souls. So if Trion go live with the LB skill as it is, and then decide to reduce its potency at a later date -- and affect no other skill within the soul -- then it won't affect any PvE players, since they won't have gone that deep into SC in the first place.

    I agree though, its a bit of a nonsense to release the skill as is, if everyone is already commenting on how powerful it is...

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    Pffff, playing SC since beta I sure won't mind exploding a few people for a patch cycle or two.
    I mean, they could have seen it coming, like the Warr charing you - 3 stacks Ele and possible IS on you is a sure sign. You certainly need to L2P when getting oneshotted by a SC !
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    This is trion remember!

    As an example of how they might nerf it -

    Lightning Burst - Lightning Burst was becoming too powerful in pvp, so we have now changed Thunderbolt and Forked Lightning to now add 0.5 stacks of electrified. We feel this will counter the burst damage being dealt in pvp combat.

    !!

    In all seriousness though, I am confused why a spell like this was added when there are so many other things that could be improved with the class.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste59w View Post
    In all seriousness though, I am confused why a spell like this was added when there are so many other things that could be improved with the class.....
    Or, as has been hinted at in other threads, they are finally rewarding people for specialising, i.e. spec'ing deep into what is admittedly a high offence, AOE-flavoured soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste59w View Post
    ANOTHER skill for stormcaller.....thanks but i guarantee 99% of the mages that play this spec would prefer one of two things.

    1. More single target damage to compete with the other callings.

    2. Something to make the rotation needed to play this spec less complex.

    Onto the skill itself -

    It's useless for pve - no one can afford to take the 32 points from Elementalist. 30% crit damage, a more powerful pet, more charge generation and 50% damage for 15 seconds every 2 mins is the tradeoff. For that we gain this new talent and a battle res. No thanks. Even without testing its pretty obvious, but testing shows in its current form its still a dps loss of over 150 single target. And that's if it stays like it is at the moment, because -

    For pvp - its overpowered. Got to say this is very confusing. It's got no cooldown, it hits veryyyy hard on a single target but with a very nice aoe too. Then you can just find another target with 3x electrified and do it again. So Lightning Storm, tab target Lightning Burst will be devastating. (which does work by the way as using lightning burst only takes the electrified stacks from the person you cast it on).

    Thoughts from Trion would be good on this issue, but doubt we'll get any and it'll probably just remain untouched until live, by which point everyone in pvp will complain and mages will receive further nerfs related to pvp that directly affect our pve game.
    So you complain about lack of single target damage. Then you say how great this is for single target damage. Then you say it isn't worth speccing for it AND it does too much damage.

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    Hey at least SC isn't getting the Chloro treatment yet - all Electrify generating skills to 51 points.
    I'm so BORED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilvereen View Post
    Yeah, probably. Maybe even 51 for EotS. Isn't it becoming a ground effect with 1.4?

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