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    Default Pyro/Ele Dps Falling Short. Need Help.

    So, topic says it all. My ST dps hits 1000 at best in GSB and ROS. Normally 800 - 900.

    Raid Buffed

    SP: 1262
    SC: 807
    Focus: 219

    Using Bluedots Pyro/Ele Spec and Rotation.

    It is very possible that I am using the rotation wrong. If anyone is using something similiar and acheiving higher ST DPS, could you please post your spec and rotation in a format that a ****** can understand.

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    if u want help u should give ppl some more information

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applesaus View Post
    So, topic says it all. My ST dps hits 1000 at best in GSB and ROS. Normally 800 - 900.

    Raid Buffed

    SP: 1262
    SC: 807
    Focus: 219

    Using Bluedots Pyro/Ele Spec and Rotation.

    It is very possible that I am using the rotation wrong. If anyone is using something similiar and acheiving higher ST DPS, could you please post your spec and rotation in a format that a ****** can understand.
    I parse higher then that completely un-buffed (1050 sp, 600 crit) on the dummy so you're definitely doing something wrong.
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    If I recall Blue dots rotation is

    Flamebolt
    Inferno
    Fireball

    Internalize charge
    Intensify elements
    Heatwave
    Fireball

    Pretty simple rotation, hard to mess up, but am also getting a 1k parse (Dummy 1100SP 800ish crit). Not sure what Bluedot parsed on this for reference.

    Oh if I recall he said drop withering flames for internalize charge latter in that thread.

    (sorry if I butchered it blue)
    Last edited by Stratacaster; 07-20-2011 at 08:30 AM.

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    Inferno is no longer good enough to be used in your rotation, IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applesaus View Post
    So, topic says it all. My ST dps hits 1000 at best in GSB and ROS. Normally 800 - 900.

    Raid Buffed

    SP: 1262
    SC: 807
    Focus: 219

    Using Bluedots Pyro/Ele Spec and Rotation.

    It is very possible that I am using the rotation wrong. If anyone is using something similiar and acheiving higher ST DPS, could you please post your spec and rotation in a format that a ****** can understand.
    Macro I use :
    cast flame bolt
    cast fireball
    cast countdown
    cast ignite
    Reason for doing this is you can keep smashing the macro while running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void Seraphi View Post
    Inferno is no longer good enough to be used in your rotation, IIRC.
    It hits harder then fireball, and its insta... why dont you use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Mage View Post
    It hits harder then fireball, and its insta... why dont you use it?
    It causes a player with perfect latency at least .3 secs as the server has to check and see if it meets the conditions to be used every time you use your macro. Then the server reports back to your client telling it "No doesn't meet conditions.". This occurs every time you press your macro key. So imagine all the dps time that you lose every fight.

    Now imagine someone with 150ms spamming that macro and falling further and further behind. That's probably what the OP is experiencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Mage View Post
    It hits harder then fireball, and its insta... why dont you use it?
    You use it on CD. But you don't macro it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazzin View Post
    You use it on CD. But you don't macro it.
    Yeah, thats what i do.

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    Wow, I did not know that, I did notice my spells not queing up right away, and thought something was off, so this helps a lot, thanks!

    To the OP, even with my latency, I was able to pull around 1200 dps on Warmaster and the only raid piece I have is the heartwood staff from duke, the rest is PvP, one blue boots, and t2 items, so I'm not sure what's going on.

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    Ground of power.

    Spam Fire balls.

    Flame bolt every 10 seconds to keep buff up. Doing it more often will cause loss of DPS.

    Manual cast inferno between fireballs if it's available. (putting it in a macro causes .1 to .4 seconds delay in casting anything else )

    Use Internalize Charge to release Cinder procs. (observe cinder proc. Finish casting next spell, enable IC, pop cinder burst. )

    Biggest DPS gain is from IE getting reset by heatwave: Use IE before heatwave, then use IE again when they 1st IE run out.
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    I macro flamebolt and fireball

    My Rotation:

    GOP
    Mash Macro to 100 Charge
    Blow CD's and Trinket
    Mash Macro to 100 Charge
    Internalize Charge
    Mash Macro
    Use CB and Inferno on Proc Only
    Use Ignite and Countdown On the Run Only

    Its Impossible to mess up I know. So why are my numbers such fail?

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    My ISP has DNS issues and won't allow me onto Bluedot's website to see if Wildfire is picked up in his spec. If you spam your macro as is, flamebolt when it procs Wildfire is a dps loss. But Wildfire proc when you have to move is a very nice dps increase. It's one of those things that you need to micromanage to do nice dps.

    Hethroin has a nice explanation going above your last post.
    Last edited by cagey; 07-20-2011 at 09:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applesaus View Post
    I macro flamebolt and fireball

    My Rotation:

    GOP
    Mash Macro to 100 Charge
    Blow CD's and Trinket
    Mash Macro to 100 Charge
    Internalize Charge
    Mash Macro
    Use CB and Inferno on Proc Only
    Use Ignite and Countdown On the Run Only

    Its Impossible to mess up I know. So why are my numbers such fail?
    1 - GOP
    2 - Macro to 100 charge
    3 - IC + IE + Trinket
    4 - Macro to 100 charge
    5 - Heatwave
    6 - IC + IE
    7 - Macro to 100 charge
    8 - IC
    9 - if Trinket+IE available goto 2 else goto 7

    The one thing i do outside of this rotation is if OPPORTUNITY
    a - Internalize Charge ON (unless it was already on)
    b - Cinderburst
    c - Internalize Charge Off

    I will post a dummy parse tonight with this tonight.

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